file sharing

by **shockwave203** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 10:15 am

*lives in Canada so is safe, for the time being*

*you CAN use filesharing for sharing files legally, CAN being the word*

by **cavalierlwt** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:16 am

For the person who is behind a University Lan firewall:
Have you tried Kazaa lite with the option "set incoming port to port 80" enabled?
Port 80 is normally the port that web browsers use, so the firewall would (possibly) see the incoming data as normal web surfing use. Your outbound communications would still go out on the normal ports though.
It's probably pretty tough to really fool your school's IT dept as College IT depts tend to be surprisingly sharp.

by **Matt174e** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:27 am

Originally posted by shockwave203
*lives in Canada so is safe, for the time being*

*you CAN use filesharing for sharing files legally, CAN being the word*

WWW.SUPRNOVA.ORG!

You'll need to download this too...Bittorent

by **Mugzy** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:28 am

Originally posted by Kristov
*wonders if these folks realize they are publically admitting they are breaking laws concerning trademarks/copyrights/etc and that the RIAA, among others, is actively tracking all users of the aforementioned software in this thread*

*realizes he doesn't actually give a rats ass and goes back to his warez searches*

Heh, there are legal uses for file sharing also. Like getting patches/demos.

The fansubs I get are kind of a gray area. Its anime that has not been licensed in the US.

by **SHWoff** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 12:56 pm

Originally posted by Kristov
*wonders if these folks realize they are publically admitting they are breaking laws concerning trademarks/copyrights/etc and that the RIAA, among others, is actively tracking all users of the aforementioned software in this thread*

*realizes he doesn't actually give a rats ass and goes back to his warez searches*

Used to use Kazaa Lite. Worked pretty well... until...

When I was studying for the CISSP (Certified Information Systems Security Proffesional), one of the domains was Law, Investigation & Ethics. Most reference material covered file-sharing (for the purpose of program/music/copyrighted material sharing). Then, when you pass the test, you sign an agreement to abide by certain standards - which means no unlicensed software or unauthorized use of copyrighted material... So, no file-sharing software here.

by **Blablabla** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:23 pm

Originally posted by {GAG}Night
a site that i cant talk about here;) .

I think that this thread is not very legal.
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by **Evan** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:02 pm

Originally posted by SHWoff
Used to use Kazaa Lite. Worked pretty well... until...

When I was studying for the CISSP (Certified Information Systems Security Proffesional), one of the domains was Law, Investigation & Ethics. Most reference material covered file-sharing (for the purpose of program/music/copyrighted material sharing). Then, when you pass the test, you sign an agreement to abide by certain standards - which means no unlicensed software or unauthorized use of copyrighted material... So, no file-sharing software here.

I wonder how many of them truely follow that.

by **SHWoff** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:20 pm

Originally posted by Evan
I wonder how many of them truely follow that.

It would be interesting to find out. Especially, since some security tools are some of the most frequent downloads on file-sharing and warez sites. I talked about it with 5 other CISSPs that I know, they all said that, as soon as they recieved the passing grade, they immediately audited for and deleted unlicensed software and other material. Now that was awhile ago. I wonder what the status is now...

by **=V!per=** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 3:22 pm

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
For the person who is behind a University Lan firewall:
Have you tried Kazaa lite with the option "set incoming port to port 80" enabled?
Port 80 is normally the port that web browsers use, so the firewall would (possibly) see the incoming data as normal web surfing use. Your outbound communications would still go out on the normal ports though.
It's probably pretty tough to really fool your school's IT dept as College IT depts tend to be surprisingly sharp.

Thanx I'll try that. But doubt that it will work for I've enabled several ports, and am unfortunately not protected by an alternative firewall and only rely on my Norton Antivirus software.

:tard:

<--All you others who bypassed my question.

by **Kristov** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:14 pm

It's kinda funny, but outside of demos, patches, shareware, and personally created software/data, there's actually nothing you can LEGALLY share with another person, either online or in person. And even the personally created stuff CAN be a violation of a law, depending on what you created it with(read those EULA's boys and girls, you'd be amazed what's in them).

Me, used to be a warez runner, one of the folks that created, hosted, did intergrity checks, of warez'd software, but that was a long time ago. I took time to research the laws applicable to what I was doing and was rather..surprised..at what I learned. No system I've ever owned has had any PnP file sharing software loaded on it, ever, because of what those laws people break and ignore every day say, and the punishments that can be meted out for violating them. And those laws, they can be used to extradite yer ass from Canada, the EU, and a lot of other countries, so don't feel too safe breaking em just cause you ain't a citizen of the US of A.

The RIAA has been making a lot of noise and news lately with it's over the top antics concerning audio files and their illegal transfer over the net. That is bringing this stuff, in a limited version, to people's attention. What you don't see is all the reports of the people being busted by the actual law enforcement agencies for the same things. Keep in mind kids, everything you do online leaves a track, a very easy to follow track for anyone with the right software and the desire to do so. The stuff like Kazaa and BT are being watched, tracked and the users ID's being recorded. Some of that info is going to the RIAA, some is going to other places, but it's all being logged and kept on file.

And, before ya scream about yer rights, none of them are being violated, that's already been decided in court. Ain't no rights online, no protections that so many people scream they have because they are citizens of "X" country.

Something to keep in mind the next time you go surfing through yer fav PnP filesharing network...Big Brother IS watching you...and he's got his knuckles ready for that big noogie.

by **Mugzy** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:30 pm

Bah, file sharing is for wimps... Real men just swipe the software/music off the shelf

by **Major SONAR** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:48 pm

As quoted by Kristov:

everything you do online leaves a track

Yep. Even Google is tied to the US Gov. (at least that's the rumor) They claim to monitor terrorists, etc.

And, before ya scream about yer rights, none of them are being violated, that's already been decided in court. Ain't no rights online, no protections that so many people scream they have because they are citizens of "X" country.

Just because it's decided in court today doesn't mean it won't be ok later. I think one of the primary reasons file swapping has been decided in court is because the RIAA and MPA have deep pockets and political connections. (i.e. strong lobbying groups)

The question is... should it be legal to share songs? Probably not, but is it legal to "price-fix" CD's, as the music companies have been doing? No. So, who is right?

IMHO if music were reasonablly priced then file sharing would all but vanish.

by **MeatHead_NJ** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 7:44 pm

Originally posted by Blablabla
I think that this thread is not very legal.
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It's not illegal to talk about it. It's not illegal to compare notes. And i don't belive quoting settings is illegal.
However, if we were conspiring to do something, or encouraging then you would be have an arguement about an illegal thread.

It is legal to have information. Sharing information is still legal, sharing copyrighted material is only illegal if your caught. I mean common shop lifting is only borrowing till someone realizes its gone.

by **-HaVoC-** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 7:52 pm

Is it moraly right to produce the product on multiple forms of media that are junk when dropped once? I'm not paying for Dark Side of the Moon for the 8th time. fk em.

Sue me, tattle on me. I could give a rats ass. I've bought the rights to listen to many albums more than twice. I've paid my friggin money to the artists and the damn companies.

I reapeat, fk em.

by **MeatHead_NJ** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:50 pm

Originally posted by -HaVoC-
Is it moraly right to produce the product on multiple forms of media that are junk when dropped once? I'm not paying for Dark Side of the Moon for the 8th time. fk em.

Sue me, tattle on me. I could give a rats ass. I've bought the rights to listen to many albums more than twice. I've paid my friggin money to the artists and the damn companies.

I reapeat, fk em.

It's immoral for music/video/game/widget companies to charge you for diffrent media if the content is the same.
You really should be purchasing the license to own the music, video, what ever ... not the media.
If you scratch your "Dark side of the moon" then then you should have the right to obtain another copy of of the Tunes free of charge. It should be the production companies responsibity to provide you with download access if you have PoP. why should i have to replace all my kids disney video cause everythings DVD? (dont get me wrong im glad i can no longer use the Teletubbies) But if its my blank DVD, and my burner then it cost them nothing after that to replace whats already rightfully mine.

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