7 reasons why Tram

[Lunitic Fringe]

does not work on Beach. 5 minutes or so into the map.

[skipnotify]^1N^0iKo^1N=^0F5^1=^7 You have been kicked via PunkBuster (for 0 minutes) ... General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
^5PunkBuster Client: Removing "^1N^0iKo^1N=^0F5^1=" (0 minutes) General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
[skipnotify]^1T^0wIs^1T=^0F5^1=^7 was killed by ^5O^4MC^2B^5L^2U^5N^2T^5?^4L^^7's Thompson
[skipnotify]^319:31: ^7Allies have stolen the Radio Codes Booklet!
[skipnotify]: ^1T^0wIs^1T=^0F5^1= ^3(unknown): ^2Great shot.
[skipnotify]^3Allies left: 8, Axis left: 7
[skipnotify]^4S.S.^8{Wolf}^4ECONOMY^7 You have been kicked via PunkBuster (for 0 minutes) ... General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
[skipnotify]John Doe^7 You have been kicked via PunkBuster (for 0 minutes) ... General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
^5PunkBuster Client: Removing "^4S.S.^8{Wolf}^4ECONOMY" (0 minutes) General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
^5PunkBuster Client: Removing "John Doe" (0 minutes) General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
[skipnotify]^#ticks^@-&-^#leeches^7: ^2rofl
[skipnotify]^1Error: ^7You can only give ammo from bullet-based weapons
[skipnotify]^4DRA^7GON^4FIRE^7 You have been kicked via PunkBuster (for 0 minutes) ... General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
[skipnotify]Crapnel^7 You have been kicked via PunkBuster (for 0 minutes) ... General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
^5PunkBuster Client: Removing "^4DRA^7GON^4FIRE" (0 minutes) General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
^5PunkBuster Client: Removing "Crapnel" (0 minutes) General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
^5PunkBuster Client: Removing "Sugar" (0 minutes) General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
[skipnotify]Sugar^7 You have been kicked via PunkBuster (for 0 minutes) ... General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
[skipnotify]Creamy Fartcicle^7 You have been kicked via PunkBuster (for 0 minutes) ... General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
[skipnotify]^1E^0pa^1L^0oug^1E=^0F5^1=^7 You have been kicked via PunkBuster (for 0 minutes) ... General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
^5PunkBuster Client: Removing "Creamy Fartcicle" (0 minutes) General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
^5PunkBuster Client: Removing "^1E^0pa^1L^0oug^1E=^0F5^1=" (0 minutes) General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
[skipnotify]Wolf^7 You have been kicked via PunkBuster (for 0 minutes) ... General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists
^5PunkBuster Client: Removing "Wolf" (0 minutes) General PB Client Authentication Failure - Reinstall PB if problem persists

Not 1 beach regular I know likes Tram.. Most of the regulars are now playing on Koijin..

I'd post a vote but I don't believe the regulars are voting.. not sure who voted on the last map vote but it's obvious its not Beach regulars.

Speak up Beach Regulars... do you want this POS tram map???

Wow, Didn't realize so many were kicked by PB.

I'm sorry for the trouble guys. Remember it was trial and error.

I guess error won out

[aphid]

Originally posted by Lunitic Fringe
Speak up Beach Regulars... do you want this POS tram map???

Calm down, Lunitic. This is not a permanent change. I like Tram but I agree it is not the answer. Too many people do not have the map and some do not like it. Either way, something had to be done and am glad the server is getting some attention. Now it is time to find the best ways to accomplish this and experiment.

I think next they should try Depot and see how that goes. Of course, they could always give admins the ability to change maps like I first suggested before it was turned around into a rotation discussion. That would allow Beach to be played the majority of the time. Then for times when most of the people on the server want a little change, the map can be changed for a bit. That was the whole point of that thread way back...to have a little bit of change here and there to keep things interesting.

[(SEETHER)]

Wow, that was alot of people.



S.S. Seether

[Lord ZOG]

You know, I'm not a rocket scientist, but those kicks are not the result of the Tram map, but PunkBuster.

Y'all guts to update yo PunkBuster software!

Tram rules. The change is nice. The only problems are with the Wolf game itself; it doesn't lend itself very well to changing maps.

[Savant]

Going to Tram after a kickass couple rounds on bch, for me anyway, slows the tempo WAY down. Tram=sniper fest.

It was stated that DAM could possibly have fps problems, damn

ICE really should be tried, perfect for what folks at bch are looking for> inyourfaceslaughterfest <action.

Yes the server is getting attention, in fact when bot goes dn its up in a matter of mins most times, Cheers for that.

consider this, mindset on the BCH is hyper, any maps rotated in should reflect this, AND with the number of players attending, DAM and/or ICE would fit nicely, action AND variety.

Haven't been playing long but I don't see how playing Beach 24/7 could be any fun. You need a rotation. I'm not sure how Beach ran as long as it did without people screaming. I can't imagine playing Kursk over and over again in BF. Tram was fun and I was one of those snipers. Enjoyed it because I am a noob and it slowed the game down enough that I could get my controls and movements down. Nice change of pace.

[Lunitic Fringe]

Originally posted by S.S. Lord ZOG
You know, I'm not a rocket scientist, but those kicks are not the result of the Tram map, but PunkBuster.

Those same 7 ppl were playing on beach just fine before they got kicked on Tram Zog. So it IS something between the map AND PB. It's an old/known problem.

[ticks-&-leeches]

everytime the tram map loads my wolf crashes. i have to reconnect then pb begins acting up and kicks me again i know my pb is updated so i dont know why tram kicks me i have stock config settings on 1200 1000 max detail runs every other map perfect including tram on other servers.iam not sure why it kicks me and others players but i watch it happen every time the map loads.another thing i dont see all these people who voted for tram.. they must be from some other forum cause every player bitches when tram loads except for maybe 1 or 2 people.seems to me the masses hate tram and only a select few like it. i wont play tram at all every time it loads up i get kicked anyway why reconenct to play a shitty map that half the ecgn players have no idea where to go.you loose more then half the players on the server for tram thats why most are ending up on konjin. i think this server rocks and i would love to see a map rotation, ff on ,lt bar up, all these things some changes needed tp happen i just think the tram map isnt working right.

wow, i kick fast, but not as faster as that...

Uhm I have to try this map rotation soon

[Conscious*]

I really think PB needs to go, and the map should be changed to a more straight forward map like Chateau or Ice instead of Tram. I originally thought we were only gonna have thje rotation on certain days, i like that idea better than having it on all the time.

[(SEETHER)]

It is real brutal at night, when not alot of people are playing. May have about 7 or 8 people playing Tram from the 18 playing Beach before. The map is WAY too big for only 8 people.



S.S. Seether

If I want to go to a server that rotates map, I'll go to one. If I want to play on a tram server, I'll go to a tram server. I think it's hilarious that people are posting in here who play at Konjin Beach saying they like the idea of rotation at ecgn's Beach.....

There is a vote in progress for what people want. Rotation, no rotation, new map, stick with tram, etc.

On a personal level I like Beach because the action is right there. The map might get borring but the people never are. Helli, I played Quake for a long time and those maps were pretty borring.... it was the thrill of battle I liked.

On an admin level I say go with what the majority want. The true majority... Democracy may be dead in some countries.... hopefully it isn't dead at ecgn.

Keek.

[Conscious*]

Thats why i say add Chateau and take out Tram...except in the beginning before the allies blow the Chateau door the whole time its non-stop action beach.

Yeah, Chateau is a slug-fest. Lots of good fire-fights on that map.