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[ticks-&-leeches Profile]

curious to see what everyone else thinks about this subject ..the /+salute bind or autopush something that has been on the server a very long time.ive never liked it personally but it wasnt really effecting me so it didnt bother me,recently its become more of an issue i belive, ive always thought the original use of /+salute was to stop doorblocking and add the drag feature into the game.that being said i can honestly say ive never seen it used for either one of those things.the only thing i see /+salute being used for is jump and lean at the same time giving the player a speed jump so they can "trick jump" the wall for quick doc transfer or move round map faster .iam seeing more and more players use this and i cant imagine if everyone had autopush on how the server would run. could u imagine trying to run out the spawn with 10 autopushes ..? try to duel somebody with autopush on in a closequarters see what happens...if you charge them like many players u get sent flying backwards or in another direction throwing your aim way off allowing the /+salute player to keep moving unfazed seems like more of a battering ram.so if more everyone was using this we would all be bouncing off each other right..?its annoying to play against and to have on your team .hard to revive and give or get ammo from.i bet iam not the only one who has been flung out the ducts unready,reloading health not up or nade unprimed,or how about being pushed from the forward bunker unable to make the trench jump cause u were flung.or sent flying off upper bunker by teammate falling to yourdeath.?.now i know the players using the bind might look at this like crying or complaining but i dont care i think its an unfair advantage /+salute on vs no /+salute and somthing if the trend continues (i see a new player every night doing it)everyone will be using it causing /+salute to do more damage then good but because only a few use it doesnt really rattle enough cages.maybe iam alone on this but i figure everyone bitched so much when i /kill(most for ammo) even started a poll to kick players like me for using its my turn to whine not a personal attack at the players using it there are working within the server settings just wanted to get some feedback

[(SEETHER) Profile Website]

Players will get kicked if they keep the /+salute on.

People do use the command for the trick jump, but they have to take it off after they are done. If you do not take it off you might be kicked. Usually I warn people once before I kick them.

To take off auto-push use the /-salute command.

[LordShard]

I thought that if you bound something with a + in it when you let off the button it automaticly does the - version?

[^wo0t Profile]

ticks, u used my name 7 F*&^ing times in your post. I will take this as a personal attack. It is an unfair advantage, but it should be noted that if /+salute is removed for unfair advantage at short range, /hitsound should be removed for unfair advantage at long range as it is much easier to track the enemy, along w/ lagging the server <flame on!>

For the salute fans...it is something that can be controlled ie. never directly face teammates in close contact, fight most your battles at range, never jump on a ledge w/ teammate present, tap out before medic comes to revive. btw, if you're a medic that can't revive a saluter, mabye you should be a lieut or soldier I personally welcome a shove from behind when traveling the map, cuz my strafe jumping sux0rs.

Thing is...it would have to be completely turned off, and then if someone gets in the way it means tk time, wo0t! I can live with pissing people off either way. Otherwise, using a single shove can still be exploited say when an enemy medic is trying to revive a teammate and u jump on the dead body, shove the medic and then proceed to pistol whip them to embarassment. (note: I won't be able to do this cuz my damn viper mouse doesn't have enuff buttons)

[ticks-&-leeches Profile]

well i knew it would be wo0t to attack this first.you used that name "/+salute" cause you like to show off the fact u copied a move"leaning /+salute jump" some other players been exploiting,your not the only one using /+salute. but you seem to leave it on and shov me on a regular basis so maybe ill direct this thread just at you if you want. leaving salute on is not allowed and you leave it on all the time its really annoying to be shoved constantly from behind i dont need help strafe jumping,iam sure you get a small laugh every time you shuv me to my death.i dont think we should have to alter are gameplay cause you use a shrub mod salute and the example you give for shoving enemy is exactly why it should be taking out"when an enemy medic is trying to revive a teammate and u jump on the dead body, shove the medic and then proceed to pistol whip them"so you are using the shuv to throw an enemy medic off balance and prevent him from reviving a teammate ..? so the only way to prevent or gaurd against this would be to turn on autopush ourselves correct..? sounds like we turing wolf into a pinball game.

[aphid Profile]

Strange. I never thought I'd see Ticks and Woot arguing. It makes me sad.

Originally posted by (SEETHER)
Players will get kicked if they keep the /+salute on.

I haven't been on much at all cause I have been doing some other stuff. Although, the next time I come on and if I play, I'll turn /+salute on since this is the second most stupidest thing I have ever read from you. (/kill being kickable/bannable is the first)

The day that commands that are available to everyone are restricted because a few admins have a bug up their ass is the day I use them more and more just to piss those individuals off.

(This post was not directed at you, Ticks. I can understand some of your points.)

[Rand0m Profile]

Posts like this make me glad I don't play wolf anymore...so sad so sad!

[Killer Mike]

Originally posted by Rand0m
Posts like this make me glad I don't play wolf anymore...so sad so sad!

Ouch, almost offensive.

[Rand0m Profile]

Originally posted by Killer Mike
Ouch, almost offensive.

Not trying to flame wolf. Just don't find it fun anymore that's why I dont play.

[[U.S.C] Amaryl]

Originally posted by Rand0m
Not trying to flame wolf. Just don't find it fun anymore that's why I dont play.

you are a traitor, you know it right?...
If I get a new connection and a bf copy I will come and make a visit on any of the servers to start bitching around on you because of this answer :D

[Keekanoo]

Use of auto-push full on has been a no-no kickable offence for about 6 months. Been discussed in previous threads and kicked to death.

Basically it was considered to be an unfair manipulation of the game, and a general annoyance to most people. Push is very helpful, as is dragging, so the feature was left in. It's up to people to report abusers to the admins--who's job it is then to keep on top of people being pricks about it.

I'm kinda dubious about the use of it to wall jump early, but considering it only takes a few extra seconds for someone to be boosted, there's no real difference.

Keek.

[Slaughter1]

<---I use it in the trenches and to get out the bunker doorway or to just get a new guy out of my way I have it binded to my \ key and I use it about 10 times a game, but never to do a trick jump, I think this place is lame and lamer everyday, u guys got your air strike limited enuff is enuff, we like drag and we like to push every once in a while, I see maybe if I'm lucky one guy a game using it, and I just /m the admin to warn him.....but give me a break enuff is enuff

[ticks-&-leeches Profile]

i just noticed more players using it and it becoming the new thing to do so i made a thread.iam not arguing anymore then i normally do with wo0t or pleading in txt "can u please turn off the f$#kin autopush"but like i said originally it wasnt a personal attack at him unless he wants it to be =P. he is working within the server settings doesnt need /+salute to be effective he is just the most skilled player exploiting it.and as far as i know aphid /+salute is shrub mod only wont find that on osp


4got to give man at arms much praise for the map changes sunday morning ice,assault,base,sub all ran so smooth and it was so nice to see normal respawn timers if it wasnt 80 degrees in ny i would of stayed inside raging all afternoon

[A Squirrel]

I agree with Ticks. Using /+salute like a prick makes you a prick. Like that prick GFU yesterday pushing allies all over the place, pushing people into panzer strike outside fwd bunker and doing the same thing in ducts.

I use to clear door blockers in fwd bunker and axis radio spawn, and that's all.

Just be more considerate.

[Savant Profile]

when bound to a key +salute is a useful tool, in its "auto" mode it just plain sucks, those that dictate gameplay rules on the bch apparently agree, auto-push=kick

just bind it so WE ALL dont have to be pricks