water powered cars now a reality

Off topic, but don't go too far overboard - after all, we are watching...heh.
User avatar
Posts: 1440
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2003 2:40 pm
Location: SK Canada

water powered cars now a reality

Postby shockwave203 » Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:05 pm

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-764313,curpg-1.cms

If this isn't a hoax, it'll be one of the greatest inventions in quite some time.

Cross your fingers :)

User avatar
Posts: 2840
Joined: Thu Feb 13, 2003 12:54 pm

Postby cavalierlwt » Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:27 pm

It will turn out to be hoax, sad to say. A car that runs on hydrogen is a piece of cake, getting hydrogen out of H2O in an energy efficient manner is not so easy.
Failing to plead
with a throat full of dust
Life falls asleep
in a fetal position.

Posts: 1469
Joined: Sun Dec 29, 2002 2:17 am
Location: North of Boston

Postby -HaVoC- » Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:35 pm

One problem they've always faced with Hydrogen based cars is it's extremely explosive. There have been rumors for years that the technology to make it happen functionally exists.
-

"Now, if things look bad, and it looks like your not going to make it, then you've got to get mean, I mean plum mad dog mean, 'cause if you lose your head and give up then you neither live nor win, and that's just the way it is."

- The Outlaw Josey Wales -

put me on the team that Harry aint on....I sure miss shooting him and if im on the same team as HaVoC...OMFG we will stomp a mudhole in you and walk it dry.

- YaDad -

Image

User avatar
Posts: 1440
Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2003 2:40 pm
Location: SK Canada

Postby shockwave203 » Sun Jul 04, 2004 3:39 pm

yes, in the article it states that the technology has been available for quite some time but wasn't produced because people were scared for their safety. The big "oil mafias" would come after them or something...

Never know, it could be true.

TeamFHA Woest

Postby TeamFHA Woest » Sun Jul 04, 2004 3:52 pm

Iceland already has a commercial hydrogenfuelstation, adn hydrogen busses...

Keekanoo

Postby Keekanoo » Sun Jul 04, 2004 8:02 pm

Canada: largest amount of fresh water in the world :D

Errr.. wait... we might get invaded to protect our resources. I better hide my old fire-crackers....

inmate#655321

Postby inmate#655321 » Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:08 am

Originally posted by Keekanoo
Canada: largest amount of fresh water in the world :D

Errr.. wait... we might get invaded to protect our resources. I better hide my old fire-crackers....


lol.. more likely you will NEVER see this car on the market. They have a highly efficient engine in the smithsonian that gets over 100mpg with over 200hp. This will be buried in the prospect of 'business interest'. Damnable corporations.

Heart Collector

Postby Heart Collector » Mon Jul 05, 2004 1:17 am

Some guy invented the water powered car along time ago (saw on discovery). Think late 80's.

I guess they are still trying to make it more appealing to the public though since the original only went up to 60mph or so.

Although more likely is the business interest side of it. To much money in gas / oil ect atm and retooling all the factories and revamping the whole industry would take to much money.

I would buy one in a second if they hit the market.

Zinger

Postby Zinger » Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:20 am

This is a big time hoax!

when you burn hydrogen the result is power + H2O..
Surely you see that separating the hydrogen from the water is going to consume more energy than burning it releases. Not to even mention that no engine has ever been anywhere near 100% efficient... Guys do yourseves a favor and place this one on the shelf next to the perpetual motion devices.


Note: there are some feasible hydrogen solutions where hydrogen is extracted from oil

Heart Collector

Postby Heart Collector » Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:08 am

Whether this specific one is or not, there has been a functional water powered car.

I'll be damned if I see it on car lots in my lifetime though :(

TeamFHA Woest

Postby TeamFHA Woest » Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:37 am

Originally posted by Zinger
This is a big time hoax!

when you burn hydrogen the result is power + H2O..
Surely you see that separating the hydrogen from the water is going to consume more energy than burning it releases. Not to even mention that no engine has ever been anywhere near 100% efficient... Guys do yourseves a favor and place this one on the shelf next to the perpetual motion devices.


Note: there are some feasible hydrogen solutions where hydrogen is extracted from oil


I beleive Iceland seperates this using waterturbines. Complete clean way of doing it.

Zinger

Postby Zinger » Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:04 am

ok suppose we close the system. Whether you burn the hydrogen or use
it in a fuel cell, water results from using hydrogen as an energy source. Therefore you can simply take the exhaust water generated by the engine and use that for fuel. You now have an engine that requires no external fuel source and produces energy until the parts wear out. Do you REALLY believe that this is possible?
--------------------------------------
edit: I just checked the source article and though they never mention the words "perpetual motion" indeed this is what they are claiming!

from the original article
----------------------------------------
It is thought to update BMW's sleek hydrogen-powered road monster, the 745h, by converting water into hydrogen and oxygen, which is burned in a normal internal combustion engine. It then recycles its main byproduct - water.
------------------------------------

LordShard

Postby LordShard » Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:22 pm

no. If you extract hydrogen from it you have oxygen left over as exhaust. Any hydrogen left over might recombine to make more water but eventualy the hydrogen atoms will loose to much energy and not be usefull anymore.

Posts: 551
Joined: Fri Mar 28, 2003 5:18 pm

Postby RCglider » Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:48 pm

Put this in the file with the 100 mpg carburetors......

User avatar
Posts: 1161
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 6:42 pm
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Postby Mr. Slayer » Mon Jul 05, 2004 10:54 pm

This will not happen. Think of what this would do to our economy and gas companies. Our nation is not ready for this even if it isn't a hoax.
Mr. Slayer

Next

Return to The Smokin' Room

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 29 guests