WOAH! Iraqi's pissed!

[-HaVoC- Profile]

Oh my friggin god the damn media found a story that isn't partisan, that actually speaks to the fact that most muslims are not fanatics and are actually people that want to get on with their lives.

"a group calling itself the "Salvation Movement," questioned how al-Zarqawi could use Islam to justify the killing of innocent civilians, the targeting of government officials and the kidnapping and beheading of foreigners."

[Colonel Ingus Profile]

How much support does Sadr have?
It’s not clear. Some experts estimate Sadr has a few thousand fanatical supporters—largely those in the Imam Mehdi army—willing to take up arms on his behalf. Coalition officials estimate that Sadr’s hardcore supporters range between 300 and 3,000 men, says Drew Brown, a Knight Ridder correspondent in Baghdad reporting on the issue. “It’s a fringe movement, certainly, but anyway you look at it, I think that the numbers alone constitute a threat to public order,” Brown says. In addition, some experts say that there are hundreds of thousands of additional Iraqis who are “passive” Sadr supporters. They owe Sadr some allegiance out of respect for his lineage and because of the services his social network provides, but, until recently, were not willing to stand up to the Americans on his behalf. But as anger at the occupation has grown among Shiites, experts say, so have the number of committed Sadr followers.

Who does he oppose in the Shiite hierarchy?
He is a rival of the traditional senior Iraqi Shiite clerics led by the Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani. Sistani, 72, has counseled patience with the U.S. occupation and retains the allegiance of most of Iraq’s 14 million Shiites, experts say. Sadr has called for the immediate withdrawal of the occupation forces and directed Shiites not to cooperate with them. His apparent goal, some Iraq experts say, is to establish an Islamic theocracy. Sistani, in contrast, has backed some form of Islamic democracy.

Basically al-Sadr is an easily influenced and poorly educated, especially in theocracatic matters, younger guy. His standing is pretty much based on who his senior family members are. He surrounds himself with young hotheads who talk him into ill advised moves.

al-Sistani and the rest of the more moderate (And hugely in the majority) Shiite's told him to STFU and sit down.

He listened.... so far.

Here's is a quick bio-link that I copied the above paragraphs from.

http://www.cfr.org/background/background_iraq_alsadr.php

[Pierce Profile]

This is good. I reall hope they get al-Zarqawi (sp). He is a smacktard and a loser. If I was an admin, I'd kick and ban him off my server!!!!:freak:

[cavalierlwt Profile]

Even the insurgents that want America out right now are starting to recognize that Al Zarqawi is going after Iraqis more than he is going after Coalition troops. There's no doubt they want us out, but they apparently don't want the world to see Islam defined by Zarqawi.

[King Profile]

hopefully this starts a good trend where nations that breed terrorists will finally start making threats to take matters into their own hands... then their govt's (at least hopefully) will be forced to do something about it.

[Bagginses]

Originally posted by ShaYD
man fuck you agent vommand you come from the hood u fuck dumb fuck man see this is why u need to sut up

Slayer sup if yer der and kid if yer der.

-Bagginses

[Colonel Ingus Profile]

Roger that King o' beers.

That would be A-ok with me.

In actuality most Americans don't want to be the worlds policeman and we would prefer if they took care of their problems so we can sit around fat dumb and happy.

[Sewer-Urchin]

Good post Ingus...here's hopping that Zarqawi runs into some Shira justice. And yes, I would say that 'ShaYD' is most definately a wannabe suburb 'gangsta. I teach at a inner-city school and my students don't like wannabe's too much. So, to use the vernacular ShaYD, "keep it real"

[hightimber Profile ICQ]

Originally posted by ShaYD
yo dawg iraq is gay as hell man that shit is crazy how would u like to behead an when u didnt even do nuttin c'mon dawg stop wit violence lets get the fuck out of iraq if they can do it by themself let them do oit


holla at yo playa

Translation to English:

Hello, sir. In my humble opinion, the current state of events in Iraq is unquestionably out of control. I'm curious as to how you would feel if you were beheaded for no apparent reason. Personally, I would like to see an end to senseless violence and I also suggest that a removal of our troops in Iraq is warranted. Perhaps, the Iraqi people are capable of running their own country and bringing about a democratic society without the assistance of the United States, the United Kindgom and our associated allies.

Tru dat, dawg!

May our creator save us from the hip-hop generation.

[Jim0322 Profile]

Originally posted by hightimber
Translation to English:

Hello, sir. In my humble opinion, the current state of events in Iraq is unquestionably out of control. I'm curious as to how you would feel if you were beheaded for no apparent reason. Personally, I would like to see an end to senseless violence and I also suggest that a removal of our troops in Iraq is warranted. Perhaps, the Iraqi people are capable of running their own country and bringing about a democratic society without the assistance of the United States, the United Kindgom and our associated allies.

Tru dat, dawg!

May our creator save us from the hip-hop generation.

Great work Hightimber. It is good to have multilingual people on these forums.

Jim

[Sir Loin Profile]

I kinda miss Slim Shaydy. Back on topic however, have they found anymore evidence to his whereabouts or what going on with the Iraqi cock monger.

[Jim0322 Profile]

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus
I just hope John Ashcroft and his cronies aren't watching me as a terrorist since I actually go and read Al Jazeera on a daily basis.

I try to go to as many sources as possible to find and verify my information. Its help when you try to avoid talking out of your ass too often. (Not that I always avoid that:D )

But they are watching! Beware. See http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/08/congress.patriotact.ap/index.html
House refuses to curb Patriot Act
Vote a victory for Bush
Thursday, July 8, 2004 Posted: 4:55 PM EDT (2055 GMT)

....Rep. Bernard Sanders, I-Vermont, and Rep. C.L. Butch Otter, R-Idaho, led the effort to block one section of the law that lets authorities get special court orders requiring book dealers, libraries and others to surrender records such as purchases and Internet sites visited on a library computer. They contended the provision undermines civil liberties and threatens to let the government snoop into the reading habits of innocent Americans...

Sanders and Otter's effort failed.

[Dakana]

Originally posted by hightimber
Translation to English:

Hello, sir. In my humble opinion, the current state of events in Iraq is unquestionably out of control. I'm curious as to how you would feel if you were beheaded for no apparent reason. Personally, I would like to see an end to senseless violence and I also suggest that a removal of our troops in Iraq is warranted. Perhaps, the Iraqi people are capable of running their own country and bringing about a democratic society without the assistance of the United States, the United Kindgom and our associated allies.

Tru dat, dawg!

May our creator save us from the hip-hop generation.

Werd.

[NGame]

News.... something these fourms can't handle.

But it's nice to know that Iraqis are working together for the embetterment of a new free Iraq.

[Jeffro Profile YIM]

Originally posted by NGame
News.... something these fourms can't handle.

But it's nice to know that Iraqis are working together for the embetterment of a new free Iraq.

We aren't exactly what you'd call "freinds" with the iraqis, but as a whole, they are trying to work together to get us out as fast as possible.