Iraq gets books. U.S. burns books.

by **Jim0322** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:06 am

I thought this was ironic. I am really glad we are donating books to help Iraq improve its university. At the same time, we have others in this country who want to burn books. My mom teaches in a public elementary school in Florida where some parents work to ban "non-christian/satanic" books such as the Wizard of Oz and Harry Potter. Halloween decorations are strictly forbidden in her school also.

Books for Baghdad University pour in
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/South/07/12/baghdad.books.ap/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Midwest/07/12/no.book.burning.ap/index.html
Fire department bans book-burning
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (AP) -- A church's plan for an old-fashioned book-burning has been thwarted by city and county fire codes…..

by **Murgatroyd** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:47 am

Yeah, well, we've got the Islamic fundamentalists on one side, and the Christian fundamentalists on the other.

I'll go with the one that lets me have the most wives.

by **Agent-Commando** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 10:07 am

Wat da hell?

That is just insane, I'm a devoted Christian myself and I don't go around shouting "Burn them books ma!"

I watched all three Harry Potter movies, I saw Wizard of Oz, I watched all three LOTR movies too... and I have no problem with any of it, neither do my friends at church...

Man, there's people out there with issues, they must be real bored or something, and decided to have a good ol' fashioned book burning because they can't enjoy life like the rest of us!

No offense intended towards anyone.

by **Face** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:40 am

Every religion has their way-off-to-the-side nutballs. Actually, the Wizard of Oz was written as a metaphor for ... the Civil War? or the gold standard vs. silver standard? Something crazy like that.

by **Colonel Ingus** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:42 am

I am always proud to BE an American. I often times am not proud OF Americans.

Trying to think of a famous book burning from history and the only thing that comes to mind is Nazi Germany. Hmmm So basically these hardcore Christian fundamentalists want to be like the Nazi's. Well allrighty then. How about that?

Ray Bradbury you were right! Scotty beam me the hell out of here!

by **Xenius** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 11:56 am

Originally posted by Murgatroyd
Yeah, well, we've got the Islamic fundamentalists on one side, and the Christian fundamentalists on the other.

I'll go with the one that lets me have the most wives.

Screw that, I say we instigate I fight between both sides, then let them kill each other off.

Then the rest of us can rejoice and lead normal lives.

by **deathBOB** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:53 pm

Hmm...

Notice its always like small towns doing these kinda things? IMO, they simply have to much time on their hands...

by **Agent-Commando** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 1:46 pm

Originally posted by deathBOB
Hmm...

Notice its always like small towns doing these kinda things? IMO, they simply have to much time on their hands...

Blasphemy! Lies! Burn the boob at the stake! He/she's a witch! :rotflmao:

by **deathBOB** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 5:41 pm

At least the christian television stations only want you to send them money...

by **SavageParrot** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:12 pm

Originally posted by deathBOB
Notice its always like small towns doing these kinda things? IMO, they simply have to much time on their hands...

Smaller gene pool...

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus
Trying to think of a famous book burning from history and the only thing that comes to mind is Nazi Germany.

ooh, ooh, ooh, don't forget the Spanish Inquisition. They were a nice bunch of good christian boys.

by **deathBOB** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 7:12 pm

Im just glad we got most of that stuff out of our system a few centuries ago....

by **RCglider** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:14 am

On the one hand, there is the shrill rabid ranting about "separation of church and state", yet books that promote witchcraft (Wicca, a recognized religion) are perfectly acceptable. Can you name any Christian based books in a public school’s library? I didn’t think so. Let’s not be hypocritical ok? If there’s been any government sanctioned book “burning”, it’s been the systematic secularization of public discourse in this country with the intent to stomp out any reference to God or our heritage and traditions; an attempt to radically change our culture. Without looking it up, most Americans don’t know from whom their “certain inalienable rights” are from, or what it even means.

Statements comparing the atrocities of Nazi government orchestrated purging of Jewish authored books, or anything deemed un-German no matter what the content, to parents (taxpayers and citizens) concerned what their kids are reading, watching and being taught in school, trivializes what happened in 1933 Germany. It should be noted that the Nazi’s murdered several million Christians during their tenure. Would it make you feel any better if they were labeled “Fundamentalist” or will just plain Christian do? I wonder if there were any “Fundamentalist” Jehovah’s Witnesses murdered. Gypsies? Why, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a few million “Fundamentalist” Jews too. Stop parsing words and just say what you mean.

As for the Spanish Inquisition, it’s doubtful the person who spouted that even knows what it was except by watching Monty Python episodes or movies. Today’s legalized infanticide pretty much makes that look silly wouldn’t you agree, except the screams are silent? BTW, the reason for Spain’s original usage of their ‘Inquisition’ is why they are still being attacked today and why it will never stop even though they ran from Iraq with their tails between their legs.

Question: when some refer to American’s liberties and freedoms are being eroded, define what that means with specific examples.

by **Jim0322** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:37 am

Originally posted by RCglider
On the one hand, there is the shrill rabid ranting about "separation of church and state", yet books that promote witchcraft (Wicca, a recognized religion) are perfectly acceptable.

Harry Potter is pure fiction. It does not promote Wicca any more than C.S. Lewis Chronicles of Narnia promote Christianity. H.P. does mentions magic, you choose to call that witchcraft. However, it is not promoting a religion. The Chronicles have a clearly Christian theme running through them but I don't think they are necessarily promoting christianity.

What I don't agree with is anything that mentions magic is automatically classified as wiccan or satanic by certain christian groups. Do all fantasy books that mention magic promote wicca? What about Lord of the Rings? Gandalf casts spells. Is he a wiccan? Let's just burn ALL fantasy books that mention magic because that leads or wicca or satanism. Dungeons & Dragons is certainly anti-Christian by this line of thinking. Stifle kids and everyone else's imaginations.

This is a great article on the practical use of magic based on information gleaned from D&D and the H.P. books. I really like it. Spellcasting 101 - http://www.theescapist.com/random011102.htm

Jim

by **Colonel Ingus** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:01 am

Statements comparing the atrocities of Nazi government orchestrated purging of Jewish authored books, or anything deemed un-German no matter what the content, to parents (taxpayers and citizens) concerned what their kids are reading, watching and being taught in school, trivializes what happened in 1933 Germany. It should be noted that the Nazi’s murdered several million Christians during their tenure.

Duly noted. Which happened after the book burning.

With the great rich history of Christianity, with things like the aforementioned Inquisition, the Crusades, The Holy Roman Empire, The Dark Ages, Medieval Europe.....should we not be concerned?

Maybe if enough people in Germany tried to stop the book burnings those people would not be dead. You use the word atrocities from the point of hindsight. Thats a luxury people in 1933 did not have.

And now a word from my former governor.

Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers.

-Jesse Ventura

by **Colonel Ingus** » Wed Jul 14, 2004 11:35 am

http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~loco/msnbcninjanews8.htm

Its not just Wiccans! It's Ninja's Too!

Got this off of Fark. Sounds suspiciously like bad parenting using that most loved of all Americans social tactics. Blame something else! It can't be my fault!

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