speaking of real censorship

by **RCglider** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:04 am

Canada Keeps Censoring Fox but OKs Al-Jazeera

Canada's increasingly strange government, which continues to censor Fox News Channel, has covertly approved the unleashing of the terrorists' favorite propaganda machine.

"The federal broadcast regulator made one of its most controversial decisions in recent years when it approved the digital distribution [Thursday] of the Arabic-language TV news network Al-Jazeera, although it did so without any public hearings," the Toronto Globe and Mail reported today.

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Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, apparently caught up in Ottawa's P.C. craze for "diversity," also OK'd eight "other so-called ethnic distribution requests": five in Spanish, one German, one Romanian and another Arabic-language station.

But Canada's FNC fans who want a popular network that would actually draw an audience are out of luck. Like America's pseudo-intelligentsia, the Canadian elites have no tolerance for diversity of ideas that might be moderate, conservative, libertarian or patriotic.

by **Colonel Ingus** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 10:36 am

Well... what's to be said about that?

I think I will weigh in after a few of our Canadian compatriots have their say. I'd be interested to hear their interpretation of Freedom of Speech.

by **Pierce** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:33 am

I think it's because many of the people in Canada are anti American/anti-American. I'm not saying all, just many. I heard a report somewhere that in some Canadian schools the children are being brought up to dislike America/Bush.

by **Colonel Ingus** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:39 am

I just trolled another thread hoping that Shockwave and Keekanoo will respond on this thread.

I am generally interested in their take on this. I admit I am curious wether they will defend a political viewpoint of political correctness, or state that censorship is wrong even if they don't agree with what someone is saying.

I have already stated I read Al Jazeera myself and I find them very slanted in their coverage. Thats cool with me ALL business' are run that way. But if I don't go out and at least see the way others are being presented information how could I possibly have an intelligent discussion/argument with them.

by **LordShard** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:40 am

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus
I just trolled another thread hoping that Shockwave and Keekanoo will respond on this thread.

I am generally interested in their take on this. I admit I am curious wether they will defend a political viewpoint of political correctness, or state that censorship is wrong even if they don't agree with what someone is saying.

I have already stated I read Al Jazeera myself and I find them very slanted in their coverage. Thats cool with me ALL business' are run that way. But if I don't go out and at least see the way others are being presented information how could I possibly have an intelligent discussion/argument with them.

*LordShard slaps Colonel Ingus around with a large trout*

by **Pierce** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:42 am

This is true. You need both sides of the issue.

by **-HaVoC-** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:45 am

Isn't it funny that no matter under what flag the demeaning of others is taught it is still only ours that is scrutinized so heavily and so openly.

It's only ours that is pissed on by the world, and yet we still give and give. You can find the basic human traits in the hatred of us and our flag.

by **shockwave203** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:47 am

No offense, but Canada doesn't need another American channel.

We have CNN. We have our own right of centre Global news, and left of centre CBC. We have CTV which covers all the bases. With much of our programming coming from the US already, the last thing we need is another US news channel for us to watch.

On top of having our own news networks, having one from the US, what's so bad about us being able to tune into Al-jazeera?

We don't need more American programming, we don't need more American news. We have our own, and we have networks from other countries. That's enough.

by **Pierce** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:47 am

Haha yeah. I think they're just jealous

by **shockwave203** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:06 am

Originally posted by Pierce
Haha yeah. I think they're just jealous

jealous of what, exactly?

I can see poor countries being jealous of the US, but Canada isn't poor. Our standard of living is actually higher than yours. Our crime rates are lower. More people around the world have a warmer opinion of Canadians than they do of Americans.

Believe me when I say that we have nothing to be jealous about. We both live in nice, well-off countries. There is no jealousy.

by **LordShard** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:06 am

The canadians are comming the canadians are comming!

by **SavageParrot** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:35 am

Originally posted by shockwave203
jOur standard of living is actually higher than yours.

Actually I'm pretty sure the world wide survey on standard of living found Canada to have the world no. 1 standard of living, so it's better than anyone's

Aside from this who needs Fox? The channel so mind crunchingly stupid it tried to sue another part of it's own corporation.

by **Agent-Commando** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:42 am

It's just that here in Canada, we're so damn diverse.

In my neighbourhood alone, there's like 20 other different ethnicities.

We pretty much have programming for every language pretty much now, all based in Canada.

Can the U.S. say the same about that? Probably not.

Now we have a dedicated Arabic station, so what, people may have even to pay a little fee to their cable provider for it though, I for one, will not.

Heh.

As for our standards of living, my best friend lived in the U.S. for a year or so and he tells me that standards are pretty much the same, just that he was lucky to have lived in California and it's comparable to my standards of living in Toronto. If you ask someone else that may have lived in the less-developed areas in the States, they will most definitely say otherwise. I am sure Canada has the same, although I have yet to seen it. (Only provinces I have been outside of Ontario are Quebec and British Columbia.)

by **Face** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 6:59 am

You're all missing the point ... like always. It isn't the fact of whether or not you NEED the Fox News Channel, its the blatant political cencorship of the FNC. Behavior like this has been shown in ALL OF HISTORY to be dangerous. If the Canadian gov't is allowed to ban one news channel, what is to say a left or right radical one day lead Canada, and they ban your favorite news channel. I am surprised from some of you guys that you can't see the dangerousness of that. Oh well, I guess Canadians are more into "it doesn't involve me, so I don't care" than I thought they would be.

by **Keekanoo** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 8:07 am

From comparison reports I've read Al-jazeera is as wacked out, or more so, than Fox or CNN. I'll scan their info occasionally to try and sift between the lines, but generally avoid them. Sensationalism mixed with propoganda--the only difference in their propoganda being they have far more volatile factions than the US does, thus putting their editorial staff in the position of constantly wondering which potential future party they should be toeing the line for.

I know little about the selection procedure for media distribution, and wouldn't want to give an uninformed opinion as to what led Al Jazeera to be adopted. I would strongly consider that it is one of the few large (ie capable of generating a full 24 hour programming guide with info that more or less reflects the 'local' attitudes) in that middle-east area.

Frankly I don't go to contemporary media sources for information. History has shown over and over that such institutions are strongly influenced by the most dominant political forces. Anyone who gobbles up said media info and treats it as gospel needs their head examined.

Keek.

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