NHL could possibly disband.

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NHL could possibly disband.

Postby Ryan » Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:51 am

Well.. this in from Fark.. the NHL Owners may end up disbanding the league all together by January.

Linkage: http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawacitizen/news/sports/story.html?id=ba807c05-98d5-4e19-92da-ac11dfe49c67

Perhaps this is a good thing? Not the end of pro hockey.. but maybe some good changes in the works? I'm not a huge hockey fan.. so this is about as far as my opinion goes :)

We'll have to wait and see.

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Postby Sabres » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:18 am

I hope it doesn't disband. I wanna still see the Sabres play and hopefully win a cup (yeah right, who am I kidding).

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Postby cavalierlwt » Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:38 am

Does Hockey have an NFL style salary cap? In the end, that usually solves most of these problems
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Postby Sewer-Urchin » Sat Aug 28, 2004 8:27 am

The big problem facing the league now is the question of a hard salary cap. The owners want one, and the players association does not. The collective barganing agreement ends Sept. 15 I think, and without a new deal it is likely that there will be a lockout. The NHL had a lockout in 1995 and it was a major setback for the game, esp. in terms of its popularity in the US. I am a huge hockey fan and I really hope they get this settled. In the mean time, the Hockey World Cup starts Monday and most of the games are on TV for those who are interested.

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Postby King » Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:07 am

Wow and all the fans in the middle are left... in the middle. Its pathetic and sad they can't find a way to meet in the middle. If they disband, i will never follow hockey again. Sad cuz i've watched every blues playoff game... that was on tv and when i could go to them since 92. All for naught i suppose.
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Postby (SEETHER) » Sat Aug 28, 2004 12:59 pm

You'll never take hockey away from me.
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Postby :UnclSxyPants: » Sat Aug 28, 2004 3:15 pm

yah, hockey is a religion to me and pretty much everyone i know up here in canada, im so very excited about the world cup and so very worried about the lockout
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Postby VlfPlyer » Sat Aug 28, 2004 5:50 pm

Originally posted by Sabres914
I hope it doesn't disband. I wanna still see the Sabres play and hopefully win a cup (yeah right, who am I kidding).



Whatever- I already got my 2.5 yr old his first puck. He already has a mean body check. I can watch World Cup.

But I would miss watching the STARS wump it on other teams.

Besides IF the SABRES were ever to win a cup, then the NHL would be finished.............lol

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Postby LordShard » Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:01 pm

TO bad you can't just fire all the overpaid players who refuse to comprimised and get some new hockey players.

To bad they can't do that to baseball iether.

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Postby Attica » Sun Aug 29, 2004 3:12 am

Yeah, that's one thing that pisses me off about sports in general. Now I don't mind some players getting paid millions, but once you're about over $10 million a year, I think it gets a bit silly. Not that $10 million isn't a lot, but it seems that these players only play to get paid...instead of having fun and enjoying the game and enjoying the fact that they are professionals who are envied and looked up to by many.

A lot of players have forgotten that. I'm all for a salary cap. I say cap it at $10 million dollars/year for all professional sports. That would take away from teams "buying out" all the good players so to speak. And if you wanted to get real dirty with it, you could also impose a cap on the team as a whole. Something like $100 million per year, or something similar.

To me it just seems that the players are too greedy and that the owners are just looking to save money to make an extra buck.

This is just my opinion though.

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Postby King » Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:31 am

Originally posted by Attica
Yeah, that's one thing that pisses me off about sports in general. Now I don't mind some players getting paid millions, but once you're about over $10 million a year, I think it gets a bit silly. Not that $10 million isn't a lot, but it seems that these players only play to get paid...instead of having fun and enjoying the game and enjoying the fact that they are professionals who are envied and looked up to by many.


There are two players that over the term of their long term contracts in baseball that so far seem to be worth every penny. Thats Scott Rolen and Albert Pujols of the cards. They are performing to earn it meaning putting up the numbers they were meant to put up, their involvment in local and personal charities is admirable too.

The problem with hockey is that the New York Rangers sign people to enormous contracts, that are way inflated and excessive for the player's skill and everyone follows suit. there used to be a time when 2 mil was a lot for a hockey player. Now its up to 9 mil a year for good players and the NHL doesnt have the fanbase to pay for those kinds of salaries. I say its the owners fault for paying the salaries, the League's fault for not being able to market the sport out of a paper-bag, and the player's fault for taking advantage of the whole situation.
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Postby Savant » Sun Aug 29, 2004 10:48 am

Those rat bastard NY teams, especially those over paid over achieving NY football teams.
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Postby SandStorm » Sun Aug 29, 2004 1:08 pm

I'm a huge fan of major sports (NFL, NBA, MLB)

The problem I find with the NHL is that it just doesn't translate well over to TV. I find myself constantly searching for the puck thats being zipped all over the place only to watch a game end in a 1-1 tie :(. The only thing that keeps me remotely interested in hockey is the frequent fighting that ESPN loves to show over and over, but this has also given the NHL a black eye thanks to violent actions by Todd Bertuzzi and Marty McSorley in recent years.

Has the NHL found anybody to replace it's retired 'star player' Wayne Gretzky, that mainstream American audiences can follow and root for? I know there's a lot of young guys 'loaded with potential' but c'mon, when your trying to save a league you don't want to rely on teenagers.

Was expanding the league to 30 teams a good idea? It's caused the overall talent level to decrease and declining attendance across the board, especially in markets where other professional sports teams are present.

All sports leagues should follow the NFL's blueprint to success by installing a salary cap. This allows the talent to be evenly dispersed amongst all teams and is up to the brains of the GM not the deep pocket of an owner that determines a teams success, giving fans of all teams reason to believe that this could be the year they win it all.

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Postby King » Sun Aug 29, 2004 1:16 pm

Originally posted by SandStorm
I'm a huge fan of major sports (NFL, NBA, MLB)

The problem I find with the NHL is that it just doesn't translate well over to TV. I find myself constantly searching for the puck thats being zipped all over the place only to watch a game end in a 1-1 tie :(. The only thing that keeps me remotely interested in hockey is the frequent fighting that ESPN loves to show over and over, but this has also given the NHL a black eye thanks to violent actions by Todd Bertuzzi and Marty McSorley in recent years.

Has the NHL found anybody to replace it's retired 'star player' Wayne Gretzky, that mainstream American audiences can follow and root for? I know there's a lot of young guys 'loaded with potential' but c'mon, when your trying to save a league you don't want to rely on teenagers.

Was expanding the league to 30 teams a good idea? It's caused the overall talent level to decrease and declining attendance across the board, especially in markets where other professional sports teams are present.

All sports leagues should follow the NFL's blueprint to success by installing a salary cap. This allows the talent to be evenly dispersed amongst all teams and is up to the brains of the GM not the deep pocket of an owner that determines a teams success, giving fans of all teams reason to believe that this could be the year they win it all.


The closest thing NHL has had as a player to watch and root for was Mario Lemieux. Injuries and such cut that short....

the Gretzky's come along once in a lifetime. No one has replaced Jordan on the court,

No one is as good as barry sanders on the field either. if you're talkin about people that revolutionize the game, the closest thing the NHL has now is Rick Nash.
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