Good Article about US economy, non-political

by **JimmyTango** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:29 pm

Rcglider, I stopped reading your post about a paragraph into it, it is that dumb and full of nothing but rants. In your first paragraph you are trying to explain outsourcing and insourcing of jobs to something I never even said. The way it is termed in your link is the businesses own by foreign owners. That could be a US company purchased by some German businessman. That is not insourcing from Germany to the US. That is a US business now owned by a German.

You linked to a website that in no way had the statistical evidence you claimed it does. It says the rate of insourcing is growing faster than outsourcing, that does not mean we are insourcing more jobs than we are outsourcing. I already pointed this out to you, but apparently you will never understand it and will keep repeating the same bullshit rants over and over, insisting otherwise and claiming I lack simple logic and math. You also claim I mos tlikely didn't bother reading your article, when I freaking quoted the section in question!

by **JimmyTango** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:34 pm

Originally posted by Mighty Mazz
Your'e not the judge of what is acceptable it's as simple as that.

So I can not no comment in what you post or feel that it is politcial and shoudl be locked, but you are allowed to tell people what is allowed to be posted as you are to me?

I would expect no less from someone like you, perma banned from the 1942 server for being a smacktard.

by **Mighty Mazz** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:52 pm

Originally posted by JimmyTango
So I can not no comment in what you post or feel that it is politcial and shoudl be locked, but you are allowed to tell people what is allowed to be posted as you are to me?

I would expect no less from someone like you, perma banned from the 1942 server for being a smacktard.

I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed to post your feelings just that it's annoying when all you do is condemn the thread. What I'm SAYING is that only the Admins should judge whats right sheez.

Since you called me a smacktard can I call you a prick that thinks he's the shiznit? Oh and I'm not banned anymore FYI just don't play that much anymore. :bazooka:

I love you Jimmy (smooches) :lol:

by **RCglider** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:02 pm

Originally posted by JimmyTango
Rcglider, I stopped reading your post about a paragraph into it, it is that dumb and full of nothing but rants. In your first paragraph you are trying to explain outsourcing and insourcing of jobs to something I never even said. The way it is termed in your link is the businesses own by foreign owners. That could be a US company purchased by some German businessman. That is not insourcing from Germany to the US. That is a US business now owned by a German.

You linked to a website that in no way had the statistical evidence you claimed it does. It says the rate of insourcing is growing faster than outsourcing, that does not mean we are insourcing more jobs than we are outsourcing. I already pointed this out to you, but apparently you will never understand it and will keep repeating the same bullshit rants over and over, insisting otherwise and claiming I lack simple logic and math. You also claim I mos tlikely didn't bother reading your article, when I freaking quoted the section in question!

There are things called footnotes. Do you know what footnotes are? It is a note of reference or comment at the foot of a page.

Honda, BMW, Toyota, Nissan, Mercedes.....all foreign owned that have plants in the U.S. That's called insourcing of jobs, outsourcing to them. Now, how many poor souls had to lose their jobs because of greedy American workers?

by **cavalierlwt** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:34 pm

Guys, I exercized poor judgement when I started this thread. My topic meant something to me, but something very different to others. I was simply interested in the way technology changes communications, commerce, etc in relation to the global economy. I was pondering how this affect America's middle class, and people who graduated from high school and maybe get a technical degree from a two year school. Fifty years ago the world was a very different place, the business model that ran the world was quite different too. Fifty years ago a moderately educated person could easily pinpoint his or her 'competitive advantage' over a person from a 3rd world nation. Fifty years later, things have changed. I (for instance) may have no competitve advantage at all to a programmer in India. This isn't an evil plot, or bad managment, but a law of economics. Communications and technology has leveled the playing field, the 'golden age' of living in the West and having a sort of competitive 'birthright' is kind of over. Times shift, people get left behind.
That's what my post was about. It wasn't supposed to cause an argument, but with a little foresight I should have seen that it would.
This why I wish an admin would lock it down and delete it, I didn't post this so people would get angry with each other.

by **Colonel Ingus** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 1:56 pm

Honda, BMW, Toyota, Nissan, Mercedes.....all foreign owned that have plants in the U.S. That's called insourcing of jobs, outsourcing to them. Now, how many poor souls had to lose their jobs because of greedy American workers?

Those plants are nothing more than a monument to the capitalist greed of their owners! By trying to avoid the time, effort, and costs of shipping those items from Europe and Asia those dastardly no good so and so's move the plants over here and give Americans jobs!

Why all god denying social/liberalists in America should be appalled! Something thats good for Americans? BAD! Working Americans? BAD! Proof that the Europe we should be modeling ourselves after does the same things? HORRID!

In this example just where is the cause of guilt that all Americans should feel about everything? Where is the proof that America/Americans are a morally bankrupt and corrupt society? WHERE IS THE NEED FOR ANOTHER GOVERNMENT PROGRAM!

What is this country coming to?

by **Colonel Ingus** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:07 pm

Relax Cavalier many of us just live to hate, No matter what you intended the smacktardism will come out.

I understand exactly what you intended and it is a very interesting phenomenon. I've been reading studies that promote the idea of learning job skills that can't be outsourced.

Jobs like pipe fitters, mechanics, constructions workers, electricians. Those kind of jobs can't be sent overseas.

Becoming a doctor is good. working in the medical field bad. People will need treatment but the actual record keeping, hell even evaluating the x-rays is being shipped overseas.

Like the man said "The times they're a changin"

by **RCglider** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:26 pm

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
Guys, I exercized poor judgement when I started this thread. My topic meant something to me, but something very different to others. I was simply interested in the way technology changes communications, commerce, etc in relation to the global economy. I was pondering how this affect America's middle class, and people who graduated from high school and maybe get a technical degree from a two year school. Fifty years ago the world was a very different place, the business model that ran the world was quite different too. Fifty years ago a moderately educated person could easily pinpoint his or her 'competitive advantage' over a person from a 3rd world nation. Fifty years later, things have changed. I (for instance) may have no competitve advantage at all to a programmer in India. This isn't an evil plot, or bad managment, but a law of economics. Communications and technology has leveled the playing field, the 'golden age' of living in the West and having a sort of competitive 'birthright' is kind of over. Times shift, people get left behind.
That's what my post was about. It wasn't supposed to cause an argument, but with a little foresight I should have seen that it would.
This why I wish an admin would lock it down and delete it, I didn't post this so people would get angry with each other.

Relax, Ingus is just having a little fun :tard:

Oops, I am too, but won't post anymore on the subject since it bothers you.

by **Sewer-Urchin** » Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:28 pm

Originally posted by Colonel Ingus

Becoming a doctor is good.

Actually, thanks in large part to our friends the trial lawyers, it's becoming too expensive for doctors to practice in many places

There is a great need for tort reform, but our aforementiond "friends" will spend much $$$ to keep that from happening.

So, here's hopeing nobody gets sick :eek:

by **JimmyTango** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:45 am

My Aunt represents doctors in malpractice suits. She is a conservative, almost ultra conservative. She laughs at people that talk about tort reform, as they know nothing about malpractice at all, as what a jury rewards a patient is not the problem.

The problem: settling out of court. They literally have a chart on the wall that says X problem happened in surgury, X amount will be settled out of court.

If these law firms representing the doctor would step up to the plate and go to trial, less money would be rewarded. When they stop automatically giving out money so they do not go to court, scum bag lawyers will stop picking up half assed cases knowing there will be a settlement of some sort.

Why do you always see commercials for lawyers willing to represent people for free? Easy: they know the law firm for the doctor they sue will settle out of court for the dumbest things.

This is what causes doctor's insurance to go up, autosettling out of court for BS reasons.

My Aunt had begged her firm to let her go to trial. They finally let her, and picked a very hard case for her. The awarded the plaintif 0. Her firm used that to roll back the settlement amounts, and use the old 'hey, look, last time we went to court zero was awarded' so they settle for less than they would have before she went to trial.

by **RCglider** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:40 am

Originally posted by Sewer-Urchin
Actually, thanks in large part to our friends the trial lawyers, it's becoming too expensive for doctors to practice in many places There is a great need for tort reform, but our aforementiond "friends" will spend much $$$ to keep that from happening.

So, here's hopeing nobody gets sick

Jimmy T gave an example of her aunt and I applaud her for her efforts, however when a jury awards $xx millions to a lady that spills hot coffee on herself at McDonalds, it's easy to see why companies would rather settle out of court.

BTW, you wouldn't happen to be referring to a certain group of lawyers such as a certain VP (the ambulance chaser) running from a certain political party whose main contributors are trial lawyers, would you? :lol:

by **JimmyTango** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:30 am

RCGliger, glad to see you are now calling me a girl, that really makes you look like you know what you are talking about, much like the McDonald's incident. Why not research that McDonald's incidnet a little more before typing out a rant and making yourself look like an ignorant asshat?

Did you know that the coffee was being served at 180 degrees? Enough to cause very serious burns, as seen on that woman. Did you know that before that happened, McDonalds was warned after a child had his face burn from that same 180 degrees warm coffee? That a doctor took his time to call that same McDonalds and say they were serving it way too hot?

Best of all, do you even know what McDonalds was serving that coffee that hot to begin with? See, seniors got a special, buy one cup and free refills(or at a dirt cheap price). McDonalds(the company, not just that one) found that if you served the coffee scorching hot, the average number of refills was cut down to.....1.

So, to cut down the cost of coffee to seniors, they served coffee so hot it causes severe burns.

Yes, they deserved to be sued, and they deserved to fork over money. They BLANTANTLY put all customers that bought coffee in danger of sever burns all to save a few cents on a refill of coffee.

BTW, McDonalds went back to court and it was cut down to barely over 100K and medical costs.

Instead of looking into the matter, you just think coffee was spilled, she sued, bullshit lawsuit. You could look into the matter yourself, but hey, why bother and just be ignorant?

by **Sir Loin** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:41 am

I had a discussion in one of my classes in college about this coffee accident. Tango has a point. The reason McDonald's served their coffee that hot was to save money. By serving it that hot, they could make more cups of coffee, which in turn saved them about 1 million a day I think. But then again, I wonder about old ladies and how dumb they can be.

by **Fingerbang** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:33 am

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by **Sir Loin** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:02 am

Originally posted by Fingerbang
Due to the fact that Sir Loin is only posing now to get to his 1000 Post level, I am now going to sue him. Prepare to lose everything, you pompous butthead!

So close..........must post a little more........soooooo close:freak:

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