Edogg is out of commission for awhile :(

by **Edogg** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 4:31 pm

Originally posted by MMmmGood
[B]You simply cant install the wrong kind of RAM into a board that doesnt support it. DDR, Rambus, and PC133 are physically imcompatible and you just cant put it in the slot, it wont let you.

well here is the thing, my board supported pc133, that stick may have been pc100. Is an intel board that supports pc133 downard compatible?
Or are there pc133's that us different voltages?

or if it wasnt my memory that f'ed everything up, then what the hell happened?

p.s. that memory that i used was made by kingston for Ibm's(it was a 256 mb stick).

by **Edogg** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 4:51 pm

Originally posted by Aim High
Shame on you Edogg, you play like a semi-noob... NEVER

Why you'll perched atop that file cabinet blasting those Allied noobs with your newly polished Venom, I mean new computer in no time!:P

You know, im not always on top of that file cabinet. I'm usually constantly changing spots, that is what separates me from other war room campers.
That and I have quick reflexes with a venom.

by **Lord ZOG** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 4:57 pm

...your propensity to lull your enemies to sleep. Sure, sure, you have a good time, yuck it up in thew war room...make those Allied scums think you're not paying attention...

Then BAM! Bang! BANG, BANG....Dead Alied Scum!

Yavol!

by **MMmmGood** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 5:07 pm

Originally posted by Edogg
well here is the thing, my board supported pc133, that stick may have been pc100. Is an intel board that supports pc133 downard compatible?
Or are there pc133's that us different voltages?

or if it wasnt my memory that f'ed everything up, then what the hell happened?

p.s. that memory that i used was made by kingston for Ibm's(it was a 256 mb stick).

Yeah they are downward compatible, just your PC133 memory will now run as Pc100.

by **Edogg** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 5:12 pm

So what do you think happened mmmmgood?
im assuming you read all of the troubleshooting from the first gazillion pages in this thread.
Im really trying to figure out what went wrong so i dont do it again?

i hope you and zog dont take me as a complete noob when it comes to computers because I do know more than the average user. I just dont have the experience like you guys do.

by **MMmmGood** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 5:25 pm

Actually I didnt read it, let me go back through it and i'll post what I think

by **Aim High** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 7:32 pm

mmm... if we can just figure a way to carry two venoms at the same time

by **Aim High** » Sat Nov 23, 2002 7:35 pm

I'm leaning towards your board being fried :flame:

by **Edogg** » Tue Nov 26, 2002 1:54 am

well guys, it looks like my return is going to have to be postponed until after Thanksgiving weekend. My new stuff got here today...but I just realized that installing all of the crap from my old rig into my new rig(including my hard drive with 98 se and all of the drivers from the old rig still installed) probably wouldnt be the best thing to do. It just wouldnt be stable if I tried to install my new drivers on top of that shit that is already on my hard drive. So that means I need to reformat my drive and do fresh install of the OS and everything else. Well now you might say that doesnt take too long to do. It does if you dont actually own a hard copy of your OS(SHHH...dont tell bill gates). My Dad has the Win 98 se cd. So im going to have to haul all of my crap with me when i go see him this weekend. And why Im there, ill make him install everything.(im lazy what can I say:D ). He is a system Admin., so he can handle it much better than I can. At least ill know when everything is done, that my new system will be purring like a kitten and as fast as a cheetah. Oh and btw..i was reading my new ecs mobo's manual...it offers a lot more overclocking options than i thought.
im most likely just gona bump the fsb up a little and make the memory timings a little more aggressive. I dont have major cooling in that case, so I dont want to push it. Well gee..did i type all of that. :roll:

Sorry that you had to read my life story fellas. :rotflmao:

by **6undam** » Tue Nov 26, 2002 5:33 am

Edogg, I now know how you feel without wolfie, after trying to install a dvdrw, i ended up wiping my entire system... without going thru the pains, lets just say from last night to now (1000 hours) it's still in process of re-installing...

Worse still for me, I could only watch my wife play and drool at that amazing knife only match the admin setup...

That is pure torture...

If I don't get my box up tonight I will TRASH THAT PIECE OF $H17 of a dvdrw drive... :mad:

I feel better now... honest...! :roll:

by **Edogg** » Wed Nov 27, 2002 1:26 am

Im leaving for virginia today, ill most likely be back on sunday night. I hope everyone has a happy thanksgiving. Hopefully, ill come back with a working pc. :help:

by **MeatShield** » Wed Nov 27, 2002 2:42 am

Stop Edogg... don't blast your hard drive just yet..!! Of course you are probably reading this a day too late, but if you are going to wax the drive anyway,,, do this... boot into safe mode on the old pc.. Remove all drivers within the device manager (especially all motherboard specific matches)... then place into the new pc with the new motherboard, then have the motherboard disk ready as well as your video, sound, lan, modem, etc.... drivers available. When completed, goto the manufacturers website to upgrade to latest drivers.. This will work 9 out of 10 times .. but if you do decide to blast the hard drive anyway.. I would suggest bumping to XP professional.. or at least win 2k,.. any respectable sys admin should have copies of both.. (;) )...

good luck!!

by **Lord ZOG** » Wed Nov 27, 2002 9:51 am

I agree with MeatSheild.

It's been a while since I've changed motherboards on a Windows 98 machine, but, when I do it, I use this registry trick to fool Windows into thinking "Hey, I have all new hardware." Windows 98 is much more forgiving of motherboard swaps than either Windows 2000 or Windows XP (but I'd still recommend 2000/XP over 98 any day).

After you install the new mobo and CPU, boot into Safe Mode (hit the F5 while Windows is booting). Open the Registry Editor (don't panic) and click the plus sign next to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE.

There's a key named ENUM under there (right under the key named "Driver"). Delete the entire ENUM key. This is the key that keeps track of all the hardware you have or have ever had (the "Driver" key does not, so ignore that). Deleting this key will force Windows into re-evaluating your hardware and re-installing everything it can find drivers for.

When you reboot you'll get a message about your video hardware not working correctly (no shit, there aren't any drivers!!). Click "OK" to search for the correct drivers. After a few minutes Windows will not only detect your video card, but every piece of hardware necessary for it to run.

You'll be prompted for the Windows 98 disk a few hundred times (hopefully your .CAB files will be on the hard drive because one of the drivers the PC might not have are your CD-ROM drivers). If this is a mass-market PC your .CAB files will be in "C:\Windows\Options\Cabs", so type that in the Dialog box when it asks you for the CD (sometimes it's C:\Windows\Options\Cabs\Install).

Bull your way through all the drivers. If Windows asks you for the disks to devices it can't supply drivers for (like your sound card, video card, modem, etc) just click next until it says "Unknown Device"...we can install those drivers later.

Eventually, after you reboot about three times you'll be back to Windows; all your old programs will still work, all your settings will be there.

Install all your special drivers, fix your resolution and VIOLA! Welcome to PC Nirvana.

Also, keep in mind, that it is often worthwhile to reformat and re-install every now and then because Windows tends to run better after a clean install. But if you recently re-installed, the above method offers an alternative to having to do it all over again.

Gawd, I love this business!! Digital Mayhem! Welcome to my Nightmare!

by **Edogg** » Wed Nov 27, 2002 11:08 am

well I havent left yet guys, im in class right now. Ill be leaving for my dads after this class.

Thanks for the suggestions fellas. I already thought this through though. You guys have to remember that I cant even boot into safe mode on my old machine, that was the whole problem. Plus I dont have the windows cd.
Also, I just figure since its a new system I might as well start off with a nice clean install. Yes, my dad has one copy of just about every windows OS there is. But there is no way I can use his XP, since it is installed on his pc.
I believe there is some kind of built in protection on xp so that you cant install the same cd on more than one machine or something like that. (Damn Bill Gates:roll: ) Isnt there?

Well anyways, I ll see you guys on Monday hopefully.

by **MeatShield** » Wed Nov 27, 2002 11:38 am

hmmm... nice one ZOG.. helluva lot quicker than my method.. scratch, scratch, scratch (writing on post-it).. and Edogg, you can still make it to PC Nirvana without the old pc.. it just takes a bit more time... same method as ZOG or I had mentioned earlier, you now just have to now do it on the new machine (safe mode, registry thing first).... But I feel that you wanting to start fresh is still the best route, if you don't mind the time aspect.. Unfortunately, you are right about the XP piracy thing with your dad's "purchased" cd. You will ultimately be prompted to imput his serial and code during the install which will cause his machine to crap later down the road.. If you still have time, you can scour the internet for keycodes to unlock the OS... but safer still (and easier), try to install win 2k. At least then you will not have to eXPerience wrath of BILL.. oh the horror!!!...

Good Luck...!!!

Edogg is out of commission for awhile :(

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