wireless router

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wireless router

Postby RCglider » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:11 pm

Time for a new router. I'm done with Linksys, so what's your thoughts on NetGear, others? Thanks.

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Postby tek » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:06 pm

Your on crack if you give up Linksys. :P

I own 5 now, WRT54Gs running Sveasoft firmwares.. These things are soo freaking stable and have 10times more functionality with the custom firmware its totally freaking cool..

Not to mention, you perform a minor mod to add a 1" fan to the unit and you can crank up the power of the unit to 241mW, use the single anteanna port with a good directiontional or omni antenna that actually has some db gain and you'll be blown away at how much coverage you'll get.

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Postby Ruci » Sat Jul 30, 2005 11:19 pm

I farking hate netgear hate hate hate 1/2 the time i can't log into the router for whatever gay reason.

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Postby rseven » Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:55 am

i have netgear..no problems with it ..its not wireless..maybe if i go wireless i'll try the linksys tek is talking about..have to wait to get my third puter first:flame:
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Postby SkiloDog2000 » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:25 am

linksys, not the wireless g though
get the new one with 8X the old ones speed
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Postby SHWoff » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:48 am

I don't know why you wouldn't stick with Linksys. Linksys is a division of Cisco, which means that, as long as they make $$, there's a lot of $$ going into R&D. This leads to more functionality...

I don't know why you'd want to turn up the power of a wireless b or g AP indoors (above the 100mW max specified by the standard). Outdoors with directional antenna - sure. But indoors...? 802.11b and g run at 2.4GHz - the same frequency that your microwave runs. Microwaves run at this frequency because water molecules vibrate or rotate at this frequency - thereby causing heat (friction). Approximately 50 to 60 percent of a human’s body weight is from water...

Now, 241 mW is very low - but according to the experts, you never know... That said, some cellphone networks use the 2.4GHz band and cellphones run at 3+ W. You don't usually put your laptop, desktop, or AP/router to your head either....

A little more trivia... there is something called "acceptable leakage" from microwaves. I hear that it's <5% (still quite a bit if you're running a 1600W unit...). So, next time you're staring through the glass watching your food cook......

802.11a uses an ISM band in the 5 GHz range
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Postby tek » Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:06 am

I'm not worried in the least about 241mW.. Hell, I'm throwing 200W on HF for a couple hours a day, plus 5W at close range to my head/body for at least an hour a day on 2m/220/440. When its ATV(Amatuer TV) time, thats 2-50W of 2.4Ghz thru directional antennas.. RF Burns from 2.4Ghz isn't fun, trust me I know! We are surrounded all day every day by RF, what matters is that we are not over exposed, cuz thats when RF Burns and other bad things happen.

Being a licenced amatuer radio operator is fun, thou i need to get off my ass and finish my my morse code element so I can get my general ticket.. :)
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Postby gowhitesox99 » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:38 am

dont do it, I have had a Linksys wireless rotuer for jeeez i think about 4-5 years and never once had to touch it with the exception of when the power goes out and my cable modem needs a reboot. Thing has been a gem.
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Postby Wairudo Enjin » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:35 am

Originally posted by SHWoff
A little more trivia... there is something called "acceptable leakage" from microwaves. I hear that it's <5% (still quite a bit if you're running a 1600W unit...). So, next time you're staring through the glass watching your food cook......

802.11a uses an ISM band in the 5 GHz range


I've got a microwave detector and there certainly is leakage from a microwave oven. ;)

I don't stand next to it to watch anymore when I cook popcorn. :(

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Postby MoDyna » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:05 pm

You can get the new WRT54GS 3.1 with the new "one touch" setup security program. Very user friendly I understand, if you believe the press. Cost approx $75.00.
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Postby Buliwyf » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:49 pm

linksys > netgear
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Postby SHWoff » Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:15 pm

Originally posted by tek
I'm not worried in the least about 241mW.. Hell, I'm throwing 200W on HF for a couple hours a day, plus 5W at close range to my head/body for at least an hour a day on 2m/220/440. When its ATV(Amatuer TV) time, thats 2-50W of 2.4Ghz thru directional antennas.. RF Burns from 2.4Ghz isn't fun, trust me I know! We are surrounded all day every day by RF, what matters is that we are not over exposed, cuz thats when RF Burns and other bad things happen.


Do you have a reddish tint to your skin?:D (Actually, I work for a hospital system. Some of the technical people that work in radiology have a year-round sunburn look...).

Not to hijack the thread, but... more wireless trivia:

1930's and 40's beauty queen Hedy Lamarr shares a patent for a wireless technology breakthrough - frequency hopping. Frequency hopping was originally intended for use as a radio guidance technique for U.S. torpedoes. Frequency hopping works by quickly shifting the radio signals of control devices, making them invulnerable to radio interference or jamming.

Frequency hopping is currently used in Bluetooth technology and is the basis for spread spectrum technologies.
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Postby Major SONAR » Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:43 pm

Damn SHWolf.. you are a wealth of (potentially) useless information... Remind me to never play Trivial Pursuit with you! ;)
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Postby tek » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:38 pm

Hehe.. funny you should mention that..

I had redish tint skin on my right hand/forearm for a while, and it wouldn't seem to go away.. It was barely there, and for the life of me i couldn't figure out why it was staying that way.. Well, it wasn't until I went away on business for a few days that i noticed it was gone(Couldn't take the HF rig with me). As it turns out, my feed line to my antenna had a break in the ground shielding and was radiating almost 200W of RF within a few inches of my arm.

So, yeah.. RF IS FUN! :)
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