LT limits

[Lord ZOG Profile]

I'm saying my peace now. There has got to be a limit on the amount of LTs on the beach server. I'm sick of getting blasted spawn after spawn after spawn....everywhere on the effin map.

You can limit panzers and flamers, why not LTs? Aren't they a special class? It's frikin impossible to do anything but wipe your gibs off the effin walls after every spawn. I like the game when it's set to closely mimic a real war situation. And correct me if I'm wrong, but were there 10 LTs to every one soldier or medic? I doubt it.

Every lame-ass noob, pre-pube puke simply lobs an air strike canister at every chance they gets all over the effin map, not even aiming at anything. You get 25 LTs and it's air strike city at every effin block. And since you can't even run inside to escape an air strike there is litterally nowhere to go once the pink smoke starts wafting.

I'm a bit pissed after having endured yet another fruitless round as an Ally and having gone through spawn after spawn lasting about ten seconds, but if you can't or won't limit LTs, I'm seriously considering playing elsewhere.

[PhoEniX]

zog .... can u run out /sprint out? and get the hell out of there? or go around the beach to the other sea wall? to me spawn killing is jsut part of the game. i take it and do it right back to them (sometimes) but u think limiting lts is a bit cheesy itd be like limiting meds; you need them

[MMmmGood]

I will see what I can do.

[Lord ZOG Profile]

It's not the spawn killing, I can take that. It's the air strikes all over the effin GD map;

In the spawn area
Outside the spawn area
Up the stairs
At the upper bunker
At the outside of the Axis spawn
Inside the upper bunker
On the beach coming out of the boats

I'm halfway up the stairs, inside by a good thirty steps and I get wasted by some pre-pube's casually lobbed air strike.

Sure I can sprint out of the forward bunker, but go where? Into the thirty-seven or so other air strikes wafting out of ther Axis spawn?

Limit LTs...you can limit panzers, why not LTs?

[Lord ZOG Profile]

Limiting LTs might be drastic, but how about upping their recharge rate? Make it slow and you're less likely to have at least the smart LTs tossing air strikes like they're Anna Nicole Smith's sloppy breast implants.

[6undam]

Limiting lieuts does sound a little drastic, after all, limited lieuts means limited ammo too... that also goes for upping the recharge time which I believe has been upped by a bit anyway.

But I do agree that it's virtually no fun playing as allies to have a whole bunch of people calling airstrikes around the upper bunker area and even if you're lucky to have escaped the airstrikes what you get next is a bunch of axis to contend with... and if you surivive even that you come across the flamer/lieut/med combo by stairs... and if you try to take that position, more axis comes charging into you so you have to handle the flamer combo AND attacking axis!! Sure, legitimate tactics and not exactly dishonourable like spawn camping but it is somewhat unfair..

Now I'm not too sure how these mods work, but if possible, a better way to alter lieuts might be to make it such that it requires 80% 'quota' bar to throw an airstrike cannister? That way, the ammo dishing function of the lieut won't be affected.

[PhoEniX]

i know some people like me love to throw airstikres strategically. my fellow brother [TBAR]AnimalMother and i love to throw it at 1 of 2 spots. i usually use my binocs and throw the airstrike right at the corner in the trenches be4 u hit the stairs and animal throws them right beside/on the steps/ they are both VERY affective and i think if u do it correctly it can help axis fend off allies from upper bunker. i agree with 6undam on this one. if you want to alter the lt's make it so lts cant throw until 65-70% full ( i think 80 is a bit much b/c when its 80 i would just wait to use my binocs since its so close to full )

[Lord ZOG Profile]

I agree that air strikes can be strategic, but having 30 effin LTs placing their "strategic" air strikes all over the map is ridiculous.

I like being an LT myself, because I know it's damn near impossible for the Allies to do or go anywhere when there's nothing but pink smoke everywhere they look.

Like I said, the more realistic the game is the more I like it. If there are 20 players most of them should be soldiers, ands only a select few should be Medics, LTs and engineers.

I think the main role of an LT is to supply their team-mates with ammo.

[PhoEniX]

well said zog now i do agree with you totally personally i love being a suicide med since almost always you got the scared meds not willing to die for the revive ( damn bastards! )

[LEAD SOUP]

WELL GUYS I KNOW ITS FRUSTRATING, IF YOU REMEMBER JUST BEFORE WE POUNDED YOU WITH AIRSTRIKES AND UPSET YOU, THE PREVIOUS GAMES THE SAME THING WAS HAPPENING TO ME AND ALL ALLIES BY ALL OF YOU GUYS ESPECIALLLY BY ANIMAL LOVER. I COULDNT GET OUT OF FOR THE FULL TIME LIMIT. NOW I AGREE THAT IT DOES STINK TO BE STUCK IN THAT SITUATION, BUT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE ITS THE MAP. I WAS MAD AS COULD BE WHEN IT WAS HAPPENING TO ME BUT I COULDNT DO ANYTHING. I JUST WAITED TILL I HAD A CHANCE TO GO TO AXIS. THAT STILL WONT HELP THE SITUATION AT HAND BUT IT HAPPENED TO ALL OF US AND ITS THE MAP WERE PLAYING! WOULDNT IT BE MORE FEASIBLE TO PLAY A DIFFRENT MAP. YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THERE ARE SWEET SPOTS IN ALL OF THEM. SO LETS BE REALISTIC GUYS ITS JUST PART OF THE GAME WE PLAY IN AN IMPERFECT WORLD. SEE YA ON-LINE STAY COOL.

[El Cid]

The only thing that bothers me about the Lt.s is that trying to walk around with the walls and floor shaking from the air strikes makes me want to throw up. Even the basement was wobbling tonight.

[aphid Profile]

If you were referring to my airstrikes during those games, I do not lob them anywhere. I have two key spots I aim for.

1. On the mesh right above the area where you go up the ladder. Seem to be able to hit a lot of allies there. Plus you really can't see the smoke until you are up top or you are looking for afar.

2. To the left of the stairs to the main building. Don't use that area as much.

The only time I lob it anywhere is when I know I am going to die. Say for instance, I climb up the ladder and there is pink smoke. I'll just throw the thing wherever because I know I am dead. May as well try and take a few people with me.

I sympathize with you about getting hit inside buildings though. The only time I have ever noticed this problem was with the new patch. It is a pain in the ass. I'll dash inside, be well in the building, and still get hit it.

Limiting lieutenants would be way too drastic. I could live with increases the amount the bar has to refill in order to throw another one though. Something should be done about it because it's hard enough being an ally on beach. Having to contend with five airstrikes in all directions just makes it that much harder. Oh and while you are at it, take out flamers and panzers. I just love turning into the axis base and being flamed at the stairs over and over because my teammates refuse to move out of the way so I can throw a grenade in there.

[[UWS] ///VOS]

HEY ZOG.

I FEEL YOUR PAIN ON THIS ONE. NOW IM NEW TO THIS SERVER AND NEVER BEFORE HAVE I SEEN SO MANY AIR STRIKES IN ONE GAME .I USUALLY JUST RUN MY BEHIND OFF WITH MY EYES CLOSED HOPING I MAKE IT. THE TRENCH BUNKER BY THE STAIRS WORKS AS A GOOD COVER FOR ME ....///......

ALSO I DO AGREE WITH THE 80% QUITA FOR THE AIR STRIKES AND THAT THE LUIT. MAIN JOB IS TO MAKE SURE THAT HIS SQUID IS WELL FED WITH AMMO. THOUGH SOME PLAYERS JUST DONT CARE FOR THERE TEAM AND PLAY STRICKLY FOR THEM SELVES:mad:JERKS!!!

[Night Raven]

I like the idea of limiting lts. Maybe allow a few more than the panzers/flamers/mausers, but not 30 out of 32. It's just not right. It's messed up and I agree with zog entirely. things get entirely too crazy out there.
What I used to do as a newb is binoc the bunker door, open the console, type /kill, then respawn in 5 sec and do it all over again. Now if that doesn't kick ass then I don't know what does. I'd watch my kills in the console scroll down like credits to a film. I don't know if this is still allowed, but doesn't matter to me cause I don't do it anymore. It's not fair.

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