French Bashing jokes

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Postby RCglider » Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:37 pm

My favorite:
# "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me."

-- Gen. George S. Patton

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Only thing worse than a Frenchman is a Frenchman who lives in Canada. -- Ted Nugent

Ok, enough. Chacal has a sense of humor, but let's not push it
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Postby B » Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:45 pm

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Postby PudriK » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:43 am

To keep this "fair and balanced"
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Postby Gen. Ouch » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:53 am

yeah i've heard that one about the wall before, but we replaced; French with French Canadiens, and France with Quebec. come on Chacal you gotta have some jokes about the rest of Canada. thats one thing i've never heard over here on the west coast a good French Canadien joke.
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Postby ToeJam » Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:21 am

Originally posted by cavalierlwt
The poor French, they got rolled by Germany (who wouldn't in that situation) and now they are the butt of cowardice jokes forever. Maybe if they weren't so snotty people wouldn't look at that this way. Plenty of other countries got taken by Germany, only France wound up with the stigma though.


Russia didn't. And you think with France's long history and military success, they would have put up a better fight like Britain did prior to the US entering the war. Maybe that's the reason for the stigma? I don't know. I don't hate on the French, but man they are always quick to talk some shit.

They've even created some wonderful combat aircraft recently, like the Dassault Rafale. Shame it probably won't see much combat before it's "old news". That truly isn't a bad thing though.

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Postby cavalierlwt » Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:49 am

They geeted the Nazis when they entered Paris, and then cooperated too much during WII. That is what made the world consider them cowards. A few other countries in Europe treated the Nazis very coldly even though they were being occupied by them. Denmark and Norweigh both had a kind of active non-violent resistance that you just didn't see come from France. Even then, France became so snotty afterwards, that's what sealed the deal. Their attitude compared to their actions is what earned them the weasel title.

PS. Anyone thinking of writing back and pointing out that the French had the 'French Resistance' movement, don't bother, I know, everyone knows. It doesn't change how the majority of the public and government acted.
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Postby Alofwar » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:27 am

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France's long history and military success


Frances military success, thats really bad grammar, u can't use those words in a sentance like that.
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Postby SavageParrot » Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:31 am

Originally posted by ToeJam
Russia didn't. And you think with France's long history and military success, they would have put up a better fight like Britain did prior to the US entering the war.


Without the channel we would have been rolled at the same time as they were. The Russians weren't attacked until later when they had a long time to prepare. They also had the advantage of vast territories and a almost limitless supply of troops. It's not a fair comparison.

It's also fair to say that WWI, which is charted by you guys as an american victory (despite your relatively low level of involvement) effectively broke the french will t fight. They lost over 1/40 of their population as they and us fought tooth and nail for 4 years in horrible conditions in what was basically a war of attrition. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004617.html

So yeah I think the jokes are funny but I don't really think they are deserved.

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Postby Chacal » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:30 am

Don't bother.
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Postby ToeJam » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:58 am

Originally posted by SavageParrot
Without the channel we would have been rolled at the same time as they were. The Russians weren't attacked until later when they had a long time to prepare. They also had the advantage of vast territories and a almost limitless supply of troops. It's not a fair comparison.

It's also fair to say that WWI, which is charted by you guys as an american victory (despite your relatively low level of involvement) effectively broke the french will t fight. They lost over 1/40 of their population as they and us fought tooth and nail for 4 years in horrible conditions in what was basically a war of attrition. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004617.html

So yeah I think the jokes are funny but I don't really think they are deserved.

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Actually, it was the Germans who decided not to attack with ground forces but with the Luftwaffe over the channel, allowing the British to regain their military footing...because they were ill prepared for war after WWI and prior to Churchill. If the Germans did not hold back their full assault, the British would have fallen, channel or not.

Quote: "During the final months of 1940 Rommel and his 7th Panzer Division did exhaustive training in preparation for the Invasion of England. Operation Sealion required trials of loading and unloading the converted river barges which would ferry the division to the British coast. This invasion was finally postponed and then cancelled completely, in favor of air attacks by the Luftwaffe." Source: http://users.pandora.be/dave.depickere/Text/rommel.html

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Postby ToeJam » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:12 pm

Also, Russia didn't really have time to prepare. In fact, Stalin and Hitler called a "Truce" which was severed when Germany did finally attack Russia. And the reason why they weren't sucessful wasn't because the Russians were prepared: the Russians were still using biplanes before the United States provided them with P-39 Aerocobras for christ sake. The reason why Germany was pushed back on the Russian front was: the severity of the winter as well as the limited resources and men available due to fighting on several lines in several countries at once.

If the Germans were fighting just the Russians and no one else, they would have fallen as well. As would all of Europe if Hitler and his commanders would have strategized better. There were opportunites that weren't seized upon as well as too many "resonsibilities" taken on at once. Germany had a military of 7 million strong with technological advancements in both ground and air power never seen in the world before. None, if any, could have withstood the Nazi war machine at it's prime.


I didn't mean to put the French or anyone else down because it was a difficult time for all of Europe. Believe me, like I said above, ANYONE would have been steamrolled by Germany at the time and at the height of their empire. I guess that is what I tried to prove in these two posts.

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Postby Alofwar » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:19 pm

Even if Hitler did invade at the best time he would have failed, Y u ask, THE RAF THATS Y. It is often said that the RAF only survived because Hitler switched from bombing RAF facilities to cities. This was due to a small number of German bombers going off course and dropping their payload on London, the Churchill ordered a raid on Berlin, then Hitler who didnt know about the German bombers going off course order the switch. Many peoplesay the RAF was close to breaking point until the switch in Geman targets, but it wasnt the RAF that was weak, it was RAF group 11 that protected the south east, so th RAF had plenty of fight in it. At around the same tim, alot of 10 group was moved from the north to the south to reinforce. The RAF never had a shortage of planes, just pilots due to the dramtic shortening of training times. The RAF triumphed "Against all odds" outnumbered by than 3 to 1. A feat which only the RAF could have achived.

The Russian winter mearly stopped the advance, its because of the sheer size of Russias army and production capacity. Russian tanks, though generally inferior on the battlefield were incredabley reliable and easy to repair and build, unlike their German counterparts. You cant give a figure that the German military 7 million strong and expect us to believe that they were all fighting (whether as soldiers, tank or plane crews. the German army had 1million at the start of the war and simply didnt have enough tanks, planes and ships to make up the rest, so stop making stuff up.
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Postby LordShard » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:55 pm

Americans won WW1. Don't you forget it! The only 6 star general EVER came from winning it. He built up France so there REAL train lines going from port to town, our general is the one who had the great idea of waiting until we had 1 million men to attack.

If it were left up to France and England our men woul dhave went straight to the meatgrinder! You wanted to use our reserves and forces that arrived as more meat to go over the top!

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Postby Gen. Ouch » Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:38 pm

that may be true but we're not talking about WW1 we're talkign about WW2. i'd just like to remind you all that it was Canada who first came to Britans aid. if we hadn't joined the RAF and formed the RCAF, the RAF would ave been destroyed and britan would have be invaded and the war would have been lost. there is no way that D-Day could have worked if the invasion had to come across the Atlantic. during the battle of britan, while the USA was still neutral. it was the English and the Canadian pilots of the RAF and RCAF that saved britan. if the RAF and RCAF had been defeated all of Europe would have fallen and there would have been nothing America could have done about it.
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