Wolfenstein 2 MP INFO LEAKED!!!!
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Like juv said, the game is decent. It needs new maps and theres way too much shit on your hud. The weapons aren't great but they're at least on par with et. Everything is over simplified, like reviving and dropping med packs and completing objectives are all just one button (designed for a controller) other than that the game is about decent. It definitely needs a mod though quick if its going to last.
Re: Wolfenstein 2 MP INFO LEAKED!!!!
what i like most is the panzerschreck is garbage. It has pretty much no splash damage. you can land a panz shot 5 feet from a full health player and it is not enough damage to kill them. you can fire one right after another but there is no power to the thing.
Re: Wolfenstein 2 MP INFO LEAKED!!!!
Liquid how can you say did did not make rtcw or ET? I agree they did not wholly make it or even the majority but they id in fact make it. Carmack himself made the engine for the games, and id was involved in the development as well. In an interview in the last month ID stated that they would be doing all there development in house , which leads me to believe they were not happy with what has been produced lately either. Id was hugely involved in Wolf3d , Quake, and RTCW, it was after these games that they grew quite large and outsourced much of there work which was a huge mistake, as we all know.
Threewave was originally hired to work on there MP for wolfenstein(they did the port over of RTCW for Xbox, and the doom3 expansion for pc) but threewave also was working on 2 other titles at the same time, and that is never going to result in a good product. So ID then hired Endrant to do the Multiplayer for Wolfenstein ,which considering the limited time they had to work with, they did a decent job.
As many know or may not know the gaming industry has taken a beating this last year, with many companies going bankrupt, others closing and many others being on the brink.Even the giant EA games is close to bankruptcy with $4million+ in losses for 07 and 1.1 billion in losses for 08, although I would love to see EA tank. Unfortunately with the economy, time and money constraints I think ID had no choice but to release a mediocre game. It is less than stellar and nothing like all of us had hoped for but lets face facts, it is not to often that a great game like RCTW comes along. You can list truly great games on one hand .
I understand from a business standpoint why ID didnt hold off release of the game and redo it themselves, it would simply cost too much at this point, hopefully it doesnt permanantly hurt there reputation. That they will be doing all future projects in house is good news and further good news is that Bethesda (Zenimax) has bought ID . This can only be a good thing as Bethesda does some damn fine games,(Fallout 3) that both look good and play good, combine that with the game engines and the game ideas that ID provide and its a great partnership.
Lastly all hope for Wolfenstein is not lost , there are some great modders out there that can hopefully salvage this game and make some cool new maps.
Threewave was originally hired to work on there MP for wolfenstein(they did the port over of RTCW for Xbox, and the doom3 expansion for pc) but threewave also was working on 2 other titles at the same time, and that is never going to result in a good product. So ID then hired Endrant to do the Multiplayer for Wolfenstein ,which considering the limited time they had to work with, they did a decent job.
As many know or may not know the gaming industry has taken a beating this last year, with many companies going bankrupt, others closing and many others being on the brink.Even the giant EA games is close to bankruptcy with $4million+ in losses for 07 and 1.1 billion in losses for 08, although I would love to see EA tank. Unfortunately with the economy, time and money constraints I think ID had no choice but to release a mediocre game. It is less than stellar and nothing like all of us had hoped for but lets face facts, it is not to often that a great game like RCTW comes along. You can list truly great games on one hand .
I understand from a business standpoint why ID didnt hold off release of the game and redo it themselves, it would simply cost too much at this point, hopefully it doesnt permanantly hurt there reputation. That they will be doing all future projects in house is good news and further good news is that Bethesda (Zenimax) has bought ID . This can only be a good thing as Bethesda does some damn fine games,(Fallout 3) that both look good and play good, combine that with the game engines and the game ideas that ID provide and its a great partnership.
Lastly all hope for Wolfenstein is not lost , there are some great modders out there that can hopefully salvage this game and make some cool new maps.
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Wow that was pretty long winded even for me lol. Silva wherever you are compadre that post was for you
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Juventus wrote:I've spent a good amount of time playing the beta so far.
It's not as bad as people were making it out to be.
However, it's not similar to RTCW at all. The game feels exactly like ET with new maps and veil.
It's not good, but it's not bad. Decent game. It would have been better if it wasn't a straight Xbox 360 port.
Hey juv feel free to send that beta my way... via email of course

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Slaughter2 wrote:Hey juv feel free to send that beta my way... via email of course
You got a guidance or 2, in you mail!
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Paco's Gun wrote:Like juv said, the game is decent. It needs new maps and theres way too much shit on your hud. The weapons aren't great but they're at least on par with et. Everything is over simplified, like reviving and dropping med packs and completing objectives are all just one button (designed for a controller) other than that the game is about decent. It definitely needs a mod though quick if its going to last.
The maps are the ONLY thing that are good in the game. There is promise there but the work required to clean up the movement is too great for the tech4 engine - etqw proved that.
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The game just shows that PC gaming is extinct other than maybe MMOs and some strategy games (like Civilization series, The Sims is kinda a strategy game), but even those games are expanding their console presence and will eventually just port crappy product for PC users.
I play console games, but strategy games like Civ and FPS like Wolfenstein are much, much better on PC. Everything else is probably better on console.
I play console games, but strategy games like Civ and FPS like Wolfenstein are much, much better on PC. Everything else is probably better on console.
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I don't really like them. The maps arent like rtcw at all, they're just an allied spawn on one side of the map and the objective on the other with a big open space inbetween.
They aren't really designed for strategic play, which I guess will be good for the people who are still trying to figure out how to get off the beach lol. Then again the panzer is nerfed like hell, so some people might not even be able to get one mans.
They aren't really designed for strategic play, which I guess will be good for the people who are still trying to figure out how to get off the beach lol. Then again the panzer is nerfed like hell, so some people might not even be able to get one mans.
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Paco's Gun wrote:Then again the panzer is nerfed like hell, so some people might not even be able to get one mans.
I've noticed in many recent fps games that the "rocket launcher/bazooka" does not have a spread fire shot, but instead it guarantees a kill when it directly hits. I don't know many rocket launchers that have a spread like the RTCW panzer; when you shoot the ceiling and all 5 players die under it. I think they were shooting for more realistic gun mechanics in Wolfenstein, but completely fucked it up by introducing veil...
Actually Singleplayer rtcw had no splash panzers, but increased the splash in the multiplayer part.

The only reason a game is good on the console is because it was made to be played with those mechanics. Starcraft 2 on console, no. RTCW on console, no. Diablo 3 on console, no. If its made for console you might as well play it for console... If you play the pc version you would just be playing a castrated game that doesn't use all the capabilities a keyboard can offer. Should of made Wolfenstein for PC, and leave the CoD: MW2 to reign over consoles...
I can't imagine playing rtcw on 360 with 14 buttons opposed to the mouse and keyboard which i use about 32... (including spawn binds)
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Paco's Gun wrote:I don't really like them. The maps arent like rtcw at all, they're just an allied spawn on one side of the map and the objective on the other with a big open space inbetween.
They aren't really designed for strategic play, which I guess will be good for the people who are still trying to figure out how to get off the beach lol. Then again the panzer is nerfed like hell, so some people might not even be able to get one mans.
Yep totall agree with all of that. Panza is a sham in this lol
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Sorry Slaughter I made a mistake, PB is going to be on Wolfenstein, it has been posted on evenbalance since July 7th
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After playing the game for two days I'm starting to think that the game will be alright. The biggest problem that I can see right now is the map design and revives - revives are technically instant but in reality they take a second or two to complete and you're almost guaranteed to die in the process. The veil isn't that big of a problem, though the veil powers could be disabled and the game wouldn't be missing a major component. Shooting takes a bit to get used to, unless you play a lot of ET. Other than that, the game is still pretty fast paced.
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I am starting to agree with u paco, I played the beta, its wierd to see everything so cranked up (lol i play on very low settings now), map is nice, its weird to see my gun again lol, but all will change when I get a config together......but I'll play a few more times
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