What are you using in your system?

[(>Tool<)]

O MMmmGood, I get a big break on the price cause my school is ordering most of this stuff in bulk. They're trying to stay top of the line, the big reason why they want the new 3.06 ghz is the hyper-threading. The new technology on the chip not just the speed. Also the ram is really cheap cause they order tons of that, most of their servers have atleast 1gig of ram. So this all priced out should be $650-$700 based on my estimates and my hardware teachers estimates, I'm expecting $900 worst case and that I'm willing to pay. My hardware teacher has done this many years so I trust his estimates.

[Edogg]

actually mmmmgood they build overclocked cards and sell them, But they put enough mods on them so that you can overclock them even further. I wouldnt be interested in buying an overclocked video card if i knew there wasnt potential for more overclocking. plus this a good option for people who are very intimidated by computers but still want a beastly machine.

[MMmmGood]

Originally posted by (>Tool<)
O MMmmGood, I get a big break on the price cause my school is ordering most of this stuff in bulk. They're trying to stay top of the line, the big reason why they want the new 3.06 ghz is the hyper-threading. The new technology on the chip not just the speed. Also the ram is really cheap cause they order tons of that, most of their servers have atleast 1gig of ram. So this all priced out should be $650-$700 based on my estimates and my hardware teachers estimates, I'm expecting $900 worst case and that I'm willing to pay. My hardware teacher has done this many years so I trust his estimates.

Hmm....I think thats a load of crap, but okay. The 3.06 ghz ONLINE is lowest at 700 bucks, how much of a discount can he get? You still gotta buy the rest of the stuff too...vid card, sound card, NIC, mobo, RAM, HDD, CD-ROMs, case...

[S.S. N Profile WebsiteICQ]

>>Hmm....I think thats a load of crap, but okay.
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if you were a teacher youd be tryin to get some extra money on the side...they get paid shit.

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[(>Tool<)]

I already have, moniter, keyboard, cd-rw, nic, mouse and sound card. sorry if you think its crap. All I need is system board, ram, hdd, vid card, and case. I'm estimating the processor at $400, he's ordering plenty of them. this is also a school activity so he can't charge extra to make something on the side. I may tip him some though.

[MMmmGood]

He must either be getting a hell of a discount on that....or hes taking a hit for it.

[(>Tool<)]

Well either that or if I go for a 2.8ghz its way cheaper then the 3.06, I just think that being an educational organization ordering in bulk they do end up getting crazy discounts off of retail.

[Lord ZOG Profile]

Screw Intel and their P4s...AMD's XP line, though they run a slower clock speed, offer, BY FAR, the best performance vs. price. Period, end of story.

If I spend $695 on a top-of-the-line P4 3.06Ghz CPU and have a $300 CPU even come close to it performance-wise, I'm thinking I've been screwed, misled or just plain raped.

Just back the Brinks truck up to Intel's loading dock and buy what-ever bull they pump into your veins....I'll be sticking with AMD/DDR for quite some time, thank you.

[Edogg]

here is my thinking on the whole amd vs intel crap.
As of right now the top of the line intel will give better performance than the top of the line Amd. Also, intel offers much better overclocking.(yes i know you dont care about overclocking zog) Yes its true that amd's still tend to be cheaper, but not by much.(except for intels 3 ghz). So I feel that if a guy wants the fastest processor out there, and he has the extra cash to spend, then let him buy the damn thing. Both intel and amd make great processors, and i hope they both continue on the path they are on. Me personally, im an intel guy and probably will remain one. There just isnt enough motivation to make me switch.

[(>Tool<)]

I agree with edogg and as for zog, uhh ok whatever man.

[Lord ZOG Profile]

...but only by very little (non-biased, side-by-side comparisons).

For my money, if I'm going tp spend twice what a top of the line AMD chip goes for, that damn Intel CPU better smoke its nearest competitor...in every way, shape and form, and that is not the way it is right now.

I'm all for thre underdog, the sleeper, the little guy. Give me a something light-weight, inexpensive and precise over bloated, over-hyped and over-priced.

I have both AMD PCs and a few Intel machines, and have been pretty happy with the performace of both. They're close enough that I can;t begin to nit-pick, but if something is cheaper and almost as fast, I'm happy with that.

[Lord ZOG Profile]

Nicely put, Tool. Sure you're not a lawyer? You're as eloquent as you are knowledgeable.

Read some news clippings, my friend, and check your sources before you go spouting off Pentium 4 3.06Ghz performance features or prices.

[Sir Fartsalot]

Oh boy, now we're going to get into the AMD vs. Intel debate.

Just my 2¢ worth: AMD's have always seemed to work out for me, and at the time that I bought my last one, the 1700+ was faster than almost all the Intel processors on comprable boards and thats not on biased benchmark software, thats lie real man-on-the-street-'it-feels-faster' comparisons. I dont care if some website or magazine review shows it 5 content creation points higher anyway. I don't do photoshop. I don't squeeze as many FPS as I can out of my video card just to say I can. The AMD is stable and cheaper, and I have a hard time justifying spending more for a higher clock speed (because that doesnt necessarily mean performance).

That settled, 2 more cents:

I believe that Tool could very well get a processor that low, even the new 30 odd 6 P4. I work in retail and see the prices that we pay and the price that the customer ends up paying. Expecially at a discount. Right now GSA contract customers are getting Hp Vectra's at half the price that you could buy one in retail. Intel has strict price controls on their processors in the general consumer market, because thats where all the money is. If you buy in bulk, or on a contract basis, you can get cool shit for cost. Intel doesnt control these prices because its a guaranteed sale of multiple processors for them.

[Lord ZOG Profile]

Most major manufacturers give you substantial discounts only if you buy in bulk, and when they say "bulk" they mean bulk...10,000 or more at a whack.

What some online dealers do is buy those huge quantities, then turn around and sell them to other dealers at slightly above bulk rate...the idea being just pumpinga million of themwould allow them to make a profit.

When you go online and see the low prices, it's often from a dealer who has access to another dealer who can afford to buy items in those large quantities.

$695 is the lowest price I've seen on an authentic, boxed 3.06Ghz P4 (which includes a heat sink and fan and the STIICKER!!! YA!).

Some CPUs come bare, at slightly less than that price, but then you risk voiding the warranty if you don't use an approved HS/F combo.

[(>Tool<)]

Ok I finally got hard facts right here, judge all you want but this is a price list from the actual company we're dealing with.

Everthing new in box*

mid tower case with 300watt ATX ps/front usb
pentium 4 MB with integrated audio
Pentium 4 1.7 ghz processor
256mb pc 2100 DDR ram
40gb 7200 rpm hard drive
52X cdrom
32mb agp video card
keyboard
mouse
speakers
56gay modem
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$575

ok now take that price, and guess with it...... take out the p4 1.7ghz add in p4 2.4ghz for $75 extra, add 256 mb ram for 512 mb pc 2100 ddr ram for $60, add 80gb 7200rpm hard drive for $25 so do that up and you get about $735, right but take out the moniter, video card, mouse, keyboard, modem, and speakers and that'll be the price. I'm guessing about 600? maybe 550? I have all that stuff you take out, so I'll have a 2.4 ghz p4 with 512mb ddr ram and an 80 gb 7200 rpm hdd with 300 watt PS and my 17" moniter for that. not bad.