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Postby {TBAR}ANIMALMOM » Sat May 24, 2003 3:06 am

WOW never talk on forums much but shit guys, I notice someone starts a thread about milk, then your talking about dildos.Since your on the gun shit i got 40 and an ffl (federal firearms license) I don't belong to the NRA either i think it's a joke like all the other politics.Guns have no brain besides the dumbass behind it.PEACE

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Postby SavageParrot » Sat May 24, 2003 5:00 am

I am sure the NRA is as you say filled with nobel prize winning geniuses and represents the best and most intelligent of American society. I also believe that George Bush passed through university for reasons other than family money and that Kennedy was assasinated by Oswald. Maybe I am nieve but it seems reasonable to me.
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Postby Lord ZOG » Sat May 24, 2003 9:20 am

I love the NRA talk. Let's face it, there are responsible gun owners, but they are few and far between.

And the US Constitution never explicitly allowed Americans to own guns, it allowed them to form an armed militia. I don't know the exact wording, but that's the gist.

I do believe some people have the responsibility and intelligence to own and handle guns, but I also believe the fundamental right to give birth should be rescinded from 85% of the populace. Think about it; the human race is 85% self-absorbed, ignorant, tyrannical, un-educated and lacking of even the slightest shred of common sense. They blindly follow unworthy leaders, worship "as many Gods as there are flowers" and still think of women as 2nd class human beings.

OK, enough society bashing, on to the good stuff!!

I heard this story of an out-of-work programmer who was into guns. Down to his last $150 on his way to his girl-friend's home, he got jumped by two gun wielding punks. Unfortunately for these two "humanoids" this guy knew his shit, and was not going to be intimidated by the lower 85% of humanity. He instantly identified the gun (some sort of .22 rifle) and made up his mind to not give in to what he construed as cheap threats (I want this guy to be President!). The assailant yelled and screamed and pounded the ground like a bored gorilla in a zoo, edging closer to his "victim".

The programmer knew the type of gun this person had could easily be disarmed by turning it upside-down, so he grabbed it (which took balls of steel to begin with) and just as he knew they would, the bullets tumbled harmlessly onto the ground. The "assailant's" only response was to either throw his own feces at this guy or run. The only smart decision this "person" ever made in his life was to choose the latter. He ran, along with his plastic gun toting loser friend, leaving the programmer with the rifle, the van the assailants had driven up to him in, its keys and the $150 he was so determined to steal.

The programmer went to the van, took out the keys and walked to his girlfriend's home, where he called the police. The two "humanoids" returned to their keyless (and therefore useless) van and actually had the intelligence to stick around looking for the keys, just as the cops showed up.

Darwinism at it's finest.
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Postby Weasel Meat » Sat May 24, 2003 9:54 am

Originally posted by S.S. Lord ZOG
Think about it; the human race is 85% self-absorbed, ignorant, tyrannical, un-educated and lacking of even the slightest shred of common sense.


That is too true.

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Postby Keekanoo » Sat May 24, 2003 10:36 am

Out of RESPECT for this thread which is SUPPOSED to be about Keek-bashing, the lot of you can at least have the decency to toss the occassional insult my way. I'm not asking for much. SOMEthing to show even a passing umbrage would be nice. You could even tie it into the tangential theme of your choice, like: 'I buleeve guns are good and stuff and cause like you can use them to shoot guys like Keekundo'.

Up here in Canuckville we've had fairly stringent gun-laws for a long time. You can pretty much rule out getting one if you've got any kind of a criminal record. And, though I havn't taken the courses myself, I believe between getting the ffa licenses, the back-ground checks and the gun-handling safety courses, the process takes upwards of a year.

Naturally, what that means is the majority of the populace is, through their own past, or their unwillingness to pay the fees, taxes, and humility of acquiring weapons, bereft of said devices.

Our criminal element, being somewhat morally challanged, and not having the patience to wait those long months for beurocrats to complete paper-work, rush out and arm themselves with whatever can be found. Given the machine-gun drive by shootings which occur in our denser urban centers, apparently there is no limit to the type of toys which can be found through illicit connections.

So what we have is a paddock full of sheep with a well-armed cop on one side, and a well-armed thug on the other.

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Postby Lord ZOG » Sat May 24, 2003 10:42 am

Keek, you suck.
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Postby M!keRotch » Sat May 24, 2003 11:02 am

Who's "keekando"? :roll:

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I love Keek

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Postby Starlight » Sat May 24, 2003 2:40 pm

Hah Hah nice story Zog....are you sure that wasn't from a movie or something? lolzzz

Gun Control huh? There are so many pro's and con's.
It would take me another half an hour so Im just going to leave that up to you intelligent people. Reminds me of school.

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Postby Colonel Ingus » Sat May 24, 2003 2:53 pm

Keek your Mother was a hamster and your Father smelt of elderberries. (Mandatory Keek bash required by said admin himself)

That being said why do we have so many gun control laws? Laws are predicated upon the belief that all members in a society share those values and will uphold them. Criminals obviously don't do that. Hence any gun control law that is passed is aimed directly at the law abiding citizens who would obey the law and do absolutely nothing to deter the criminal element as they obviously don't care about the law.

So basically we are making it harder and harder for honest citizens to own a means of protection and doing absolutely nothing to stop criminals from owning guns.

I live in Minnesota and our state just passed conceal and carry legislature. First we get Hockey back! Now we can tote guns around! All that is good about North America in one place!

And I agree that the NRA is mostly clowns. there is absolutely no need for someone to own a full auto assault rifle with armor piercing ammo. Those deer taken to wearing bulletproof vests now?:ar15:
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Postby Rule of Wrist » Sat May 24, 2003 4:46 pm

Zog, the majority of constitutional experts (to my knowledge) believe that the term "militia" as used in those days means "the people" which is found in many places in the words of the constitution. And I am happy for cunnilingus... er colonel ingus... for his newfound ability to conceal/carry.

But I must ask, colonel how do you know what keek's dad smelled like? That would make you like 80 yrs old or something....

Personally, I think Keekanoo, Keekano, keekando, or whatever other alias he is choosing to use now is one of the most dangerous individuals on the face of the planet.

After his time in san quentin's "naughty" wing, he escaped into the canadian wilderness to wreak havoc on the local population of fuzzy bunnies. Trappers began to tell legends about the mutilated corpses of rabbits and marmots they found with their colons torn out, and no tracks around; like they had just appeared from nowhere.

After a while, the stories died down, and an old man appeared as a "psychologist" in a canadian prison. Soon after, the prison population of ferrets began to mysteriously decline, and the "psychologist" began to get many more patients complaining of dreams about rabbits screaming death cries.

To this day, these phenomenon are unexplained, but people still whisper about the mysterious "Keekanoo, Marmot Molester of Hamilton"............




(How's that, Keek?) :D

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Postby (>Tool<) » Sat May 24, 2003 7:21 pm

how can you insult keek, he's got a great chick :D lol just playin around just to make that totally clear.

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Postby SavageParrot » Sun May 25, 2003 6:06 am

Hmm your constitutional experts believe militia means people. Interesting considering the word clearly stems from the latin 'milites' which means soldiers. For any of you Americans who don't know this, latin was the 'talk' of the 'eyetalians' in olden times. Still experts are experts, they couldn't be wrong.
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Postby Lord ZOG » Sun May 25, 2003 10:19 am

Unfortunately any written manuscript is subject to interpretation. The United States Consitution, the Bible or any local laws have all been written for explicit purposes, yet left to be "interpretted" as meaning something completely different.

Most people would agree that the term "militia" means an "organized group", most likely for the purpose of defense.

This has been warped and misconstrued into allowing the common yahoo to own guns. The NRA could be considered an "organized group", but I can't even complete that sentence with a straight face.

Mis-interpretation of the Bible has lead to the torture and death of people in the past, Gallileo immediately comes to mind. He makes the obvious conclusion that the Earth revolves around the Sun and the Holy Church turns his life into a living hell under the guise that the Scripture has commanded them to.

I actually don't mind the though of some people having guns, but not all. I'm all for more stringent laws regarding gun use and ownership. Owning a gun should be based on your A). Knowledge, B). Respect and C). Character.

Unfortunately there is no test for people's character, except the test of time...and most people aren't willing to endure that.

P.S. Keek sucks....:P
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Postby BubbaGump » Sun May 25, 2003 11:10 am

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Proposed Virginia Constitution, 1776
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -- Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

Samuel Adams, of Massachusetts:

"The said Constitution [shall] be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms." -- Massachusetts' U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788


Richard Henry Lee, of Virginia:

"A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves . . . and include all men capable of bearing arms. . . To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms... The mind that aims at a select militia, must be influenced by a truly anti-republican principle." -- Additional Letters From The Federal Farmer, 1788

Tench Coxe, of Pennsylvania:

"The militia, who are in fact the effective part of the people at large, will render many troops quite unnecessary. They will form a powerful check upon the regular troops, and will generally be sufficient to over-awe them." -- An American Citizen, Oct. 21, 1787
"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American . . . . The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." -- The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788

"As the military forces which must occasionally be raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article (of amendment) in their right to keep and bear their private arms." -- Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789

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