P4 Extreme Pricing

by **Ryan** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:42 am

From Neowin.net

The Inquirer has seen some new desktop roadmaps from Intel that reveal the next round of Pentium 4 price cuts, including the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition's launch price. The roadmaps also hint that Prescott might not make it out until early next year. At launch, the Pentium 4 Extreme Edition will apparently cost a whopping $925; Extremely Expensive, indeed. Thankfully, Intel is showing massive price cuts for its Pentium 4 line that would drop the Pentium 4 3.2GHz's price from over $600 all the way down to $417. Lower speed grades will also get hefty price cuts. Against a $925 Pentium 4 Extreme Edition, the Athlon FX-51's $760 street price is actually a steal. A bigger problem for AMD will be Intel's next round of price cuts, which will highlight the fact that only a single, expensive Athlon 64 speed grade is available at 3200+.

VERY expensive, but should prove to be damn awesome.

Also, nice to see a price cut to the already expensive c chips.

by **shockwave203** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:44 am

That's great news that the 3+ghz cpus will be cut in price

by **Edogg** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 8:45 am

Intel is also going to be releasing newer versions of the p4 c revisions that have 1mb of l2 cache. They are supposedly going to be released at the current prices of their previous version.

by **MMmmGood** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:06 am

Originally posted by Edogg
Intel is also going to be releasing newer versions of the p4 c revisions that have 1mb of l2 cache. They are supposedly going to be released at the current prices of their previous version.

God dammit! I just bought my P4 3.0C like two months ago!

by **Edogg** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:09 am

Originally posted by MMmmGood
God dammit! I just bought my P4 3.0C like two months ago!

Yeah I hear ya on that one.

by **Edogg** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:14 am

here is the link with the article about it. Someone posted it on another discussion board.

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/Article.asp?datePublish=2003/10/09&pages=A4&seq=11

by **MMmmGood** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:16 am

Is that Extreme edition 2mb of L3 cache? Or is it L2? Anyone know?

by **Edogg** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:24 am

Originally posted by MMmmGood
Is that Extreme edition 2mb of L3 cache? Or is it L2? Anyone know?

The p4 EE has 2mb of l3 cache. The new c versions will have 1mb of l2 cache. As far as which will actually give a better performance increase in games I have no clue.

by **MMmmGood** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:44 am

I'm willing to bet my money on the 1mb of L2 versus the 2mb of added L3.

by **Edogg** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:47 am

Originally posted by MMmmGood
I'm willing to bet my money on the 1mb of L2 versus the 2mb of added L3.

Yeah I was kind of thinking that too, but wasnt sure because the EE is actually going to be marketed towards gamers.

by **JimmyTango** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:05 am

The added cache will show little improvement. While it did when they went from the 256 fromt he willy cores to the 512 of the northwood cores, it shouldn't show much here. Before was because of the new core, which was eliminating the blunders of the Willy core(a huge blunder on Intel's part).

This is basicly Intel adding more cache to counter the Athlon64's on die memory controller. All this will do is hide some of the downfalls associated with not having an on die memory controller.

For those of you with the 3.0C's, are you overclocking? If not, WTH not?

by **MMmmGood** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:08 am

Well, when they added 256 cache from Williamette to Northwood, it actually didnt give the performance boost they would have liked.

Thats why the increased the FSB to 533 as well.

by **JimmyTango** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:26 am

There was a very large boost in overall performance going to the northwood core. The 1.6a's are classics, I used mine until the 2.4C came out. The Willy cores were flawed from the get go, and were out performed by P3's when first released.

by **Edogg** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:00 pm

Originally posted by JimmyTango
The added cache will show little improvement. While it did when they went from the 256 fromt he willy cores to the 512 of the northwood cores, it shouldn't show much here. Before was because of the new core, which was eliminating the blunders of the Willy core(a huge blunder on Intel's part).

This is basicly Intel adding more cache to counter the Athlon64's on die memory controller. All this will do is hide some of the downfalls associated with not having an on die memory controller.

For those of you with the 3.0C's, are you overclocking? If not, WTH not?

actually jimmy there are already benchmarks of the EE floating around showing about 5-10 percent increases in game performance over the normal p4c. I dont consider a 10 percent improvement as a "little improvement" considering all that was changed was the cache. Im thinking we will at least see that same performance boost with the 1mb l2 cache, because l2 cache is more important than l3 cache.

by **Casus** » Fri Oct 10, 2003 12:10 pm

My cache is bigger then yours! Pfft!

Tom

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