snipers

by **OSPREY** » Tue Feb 25, 2003 3:52 pm

Originally posted by Z3dd1cuS
Okay, snipers are even more valuable on beach, and even more so valuable when the allies have a deficit. You fall into a nice little nook, and when your teamates spawn and that pesky Panz/Lt pokes his head out to blast/A.S them, the sniper picks him off, and everyone lives...yet, nobody seems to recognize. I do know that I get pissed when I get panzed right from the forward spawn, but did you know that the reason you made it inside is because a SNIPER just gave you some breathing room???

Ok , so by your argument , 8 snipers on the beach to take out only 2 allowable Panzers on the Axis side is a benifit ?. Morover I cant even remember the last time I got nailed with a panzer in the trenches . usually those blokes are in the War room. Its a matter of resources, I like the sniper class , it is a real strong point in the game , however once that wall comes down and you have almost a third of your team left on the beach it becomes a massive DEFICIT . i would love to have 1 really good sniper , hell even 2 on the beach to take care of straglers but 8 or even 10!! I saw this past weekend makes my stomach turn. Coincidently I tooka tally of those players and all had scores of 8 or 11 for the entire 20 minute round. There not helping , there bandwith leeches of the worst kind.

by **Z3dd1cuS** » Wed Feb 26, 2003 12:57 pm

Hmmm....i've played for at least an hour everyday for the last 2 weeks and never once seen 8 sniper on the beach...i think i saw 4 once.

Come on man, figure it out.

by **Z3dd1cuS** » Wed Feb 26, 2003 1:00 pm

Oh shyte sorry, the arguement...

i did say panzers and LTS as well. Can't remember the last time you got nailed by a panz in the trenches?? I think your on your own there....

None the less, I can see your point, and I agree that 8 sniper isn't helping anything. But that was never my argument in the first place.

by **OSPREY** » Wed Feb 26, 2003 4:11 pm

No problem mate , I really do love sniping . But it seems everytime I get on lately there's a whole squad.

by **Doug the Unforgiven** » Wed Feb 26, 2003 4:59 pm

Originally posted by Z3dd1cuS
Okay, snipers are even more valuable on beach, and even more so valuable when the allies have a deficit. You fall into a nice little nook, and when your teamates spawn and that pesky Panz/Lt pokes his head out to blast/A.S them, the sniper picks him off, and everyone lives...yet, nobody seems to recognize. I do know that I get pissed when I get panzed right from the forward spawn, but did you know that the reason you made it inside is because a SNIPER just gave you some breathing room???

I used to think this way, also. The problem, though, is that the dickhead Axis sticking his head out to panzer/airstrike your buddies has almost always just spawned also. And they move quickly to get out that attack so they can still be invulnerable to the snipers.

When I first came to this beach, I sniped alot. I got damn good at it - had myself a great sniping routine that allowed for much quicker target acquisition. What bothered me was that out of 10 true headshots, I would get maybe 1-2 kills. I knew darn well that it should have been 10 kills.

This is my own experience. I don't say this to bash snipers. I still snipe sometimes on other servers and have alot of fun with it. What I learned about this beach is that Allied snipers only harass the enemy. That's fine. Harassment is part of a war/game. And I think 2 Allied snipers (good ones) is a good number to accomplish this. Any higher number is a waste of resources.

The 2 snipers don't accomplish this by sitting on the hill and firing shot after shot. Good snipers shoot once or twice and then get the hell out of there to find another position. Fire a couple more shots and move again. This can be frustrating to the enemy who pours resources to the beach expecting to find a bunch of idiot snipers, only to find 1 or 2 and not have their sniper-hunters defending the documents in a now Allied-filled basement.
--Just my theory, nothing else.

by **#1HiTPoInT** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 10:25 pm

I wonder if it's possible to force them on a Shrub-mod.

But I defenitely see where you're coming from, man!!!

by **Z3dd1cuS** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 12:35 pm

Well when the sniper falls into that nice little nook on the hill that you can climb up to, he's get a lovely view. True, he may not kill a few enemies right from the spawn due to invulnerability, but, it seem from my experience that you can still pick of quite a few from that position. Not only that, but you can also pick off the axis that make a run for the flag, or get cocky enough to storm the trenches. I've said it before and I will say it again. Sure, if you have a bunch of snipers out there it's gonna be more useless than anything, but if i look out and see that there are no snipers, i figure what the hell, i could use a peacfull snipe right about now.

by **#1HiTPoInT** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 8:02 pm

Geez, come to think of it, they really ruin the game for the Axis and Allied team!

Axis- They have some cheap kills from the beach from some no-skilled people.

Allies- They lack active members to help them fight and take the docs.

by **Z3dd1cuS** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 1:14 pm

Wow, did you think that one out first?

Axis - A kill is a kill. Don't like it? Grab up the tissues.
Allies - The whole argument was that snipers pick off the panzers/lt's (this has been said about 100 times now), and in turn, would allow more allied to get inside.

Please, read through before making such ignorant posts.
Danke

by **#1HiTPoInT** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:52 am

Originally posted by Buddy
I think that a few snipers on sniper hill even after the early parts of the game can be helpful. It definitely can make Axis Lt's and Panzerfaust users honest - they can't sit too long in an open window. I think the point here though is that there are too many of them, and that is a valid point, but I think that there is definitely a plus to having a few of them on the beach for the whole game. God knows they aren't doing it to try and rack up points.

Even if they do turn into cheap panzers, its still a better use than a dumbass sniper. Anyone who plays sniper full-time is just useless. Occasionally, it's fun.

by **BigJollyNazi** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:46 am

It's your choice if you want to be a sniper, but as everyone else is saying, it seems really useless to be one after the wall blows. It's hard enough playing as Allies and when the bunker gets recaptured by the Axis and I have to run my ass up the beach, AND I PASS A SNIPER, I'm like "SHIT! get up there and cap it for us moron!" I wish that there was a 2 sniper (or maybe even 1 sniper limit) once wall blows. Cause it's so frustrating when you're trying to cap the docs and there's 5 ppl sitting on the beach with their Mausers up their Ahole trying to pop on spawn. One thing I love about RTCW is the diversity of roles. ID did a great job making everyone rely on each other (espeically the medic/lt relationship). Some people just want the "enemy at the gates" rush of killing someone the whole map away. I, however, never play as a sniper and get my jollies off of being a crazy ass medic. I think that is the most action packed class. I hope that you snipers have fun though, just wish there was a limit after wall blows.

by **#1HiTPoInT** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 11:29 am

Sniping is cheap when you do it for a living on there.

by **Z3dd1cuS** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:08 pm

No worries guys, you have to bear in mind that hit just can't help but talk out his ass before even considering the posts and comments that people have actually thought about a little while.

by **>GoatFace<** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:33 pm

What's a Sniper ?????

Goat

by **44444slaughter** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 10:32 pm

sniper = death from slaughter in a beach raid f them and their shitty gun

snipers

hehe

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